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Noises after 7600 service

'15 versys 650, no significant issues. Just took it in for the scheduled service and there's new engine noise and vibration. The engine sounds a little deeper with more exhaust note in the engine area and also seems like there's a little more vibration. They changed spark plugs, they did not do the vacuum check -sounds like very few dealerships do.

Engine is totally deeper toned and a little "rumblier" at idle.

Seems like there's also an intermittent metallic vibe sound (if it were a car I'd say it's a loose heat shield ).

Not aware of any actual exhaust system work done at this service. Would bad plugs contribute to these issues? Something else going on I think.
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Is the engine running OK? I'd express your concerns to the dealer and see what he says.
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Do you hear a faint whisper from the engine saying something to the effect, "bring the bike back, we aren't done sucking your bank account dry".
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Honestly I think your mind is playing tricks with you. After paying for service your mind is trying to notice a difference. It's like when people drop the bike in the parking lot and then notice the bike developed a rod knock because of it!
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Bike is a little more hesitant starting, a little rougher idle, and I pick up new subtle vibe/knock when accelerating. The Versys is always a little buzzy like that but this is different.

Dealership will take a look at it tomorrow to make sure there's not something going on as a result of their service. Should be for free. The 7600 mile service was a lot less in cost than the purchase/mounting of the Michelin Pilot Road 4s I got last month but wow what a great tire

And absolutely, I've been wondering if I'm just looking for something different but there are enough little things all of a sudden that are different that I'll have them take a look.
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do you know everything that they did while they were in there? (assume they didn't do any valve timing)
some of it could be improperly gapped plugs.
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I'll bet they put the cams back in wrong. Training that new guy.
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I'll bet they put the cams back in wrong. Training that new guy.
Don't think it would start and run if that was done....
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No valve work at this interval.
Oil and filter, spark plug changeout. Everything else is check/adjust/tighten/lube

Nothing else directly affecting engine or exhaust system.
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wrong spark plug or plug not fully seated ? loose connection somewhere?

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sound and vibes like a thumper now.

Probably left a rag in left throttle body.
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I'll bet they put the cams back in wrong. Training that new guy.
Not to hijack the thread, but my friend bought a left over Yamaha 2014 V-Star Deluxe. He told dealer that the stereo controller on handlebar was missing and GPS would not charge. Short story, he took it in for some work and they found the controller taped to the inside of the fairing. Nice original assembly huh?

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Bike is a little more hesitant starting, a little rougher idle, and I pick up new subtle vibe/knock when accelerating. The Versys is always a little buzzy like that but this is different.

Dealership will take a look at it tomorrow to make sure there's not something going on as a result of their service. Should be for free. The 7600 mile service was a lot less in cost than the purchase/mounting of the Michelin Pilot Road 4s I got last month but wow what a great tire

And absolutely, I've been wondering if I'm just looking for something different but there are enough little things all of a sudden that are different that I'll have them take a look.
Something's definitely not right. Maybe the airbox and/or vacuum hoses were not properly reinstalled. Maybe they installed the spark plugs loose... Heck, maybe the fairly competent apprentice screwed everything up.
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A tech rode my bike and didn't really notice anything. Another person rolled out a new Versys from their showroom and started it, listening intently. Then he started mine again and immediately looked at me and nodded his head. When they compared the two they could tell the sounds were different.

Bottom line is they'll rack it Tuesday and check the airflow system. They think something is leaking / mid-connected. I'll keep you posted
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They found a loose crankcase breather hose. Two attach to the air cleaner and one was unattached, hence the extra flutterish exhaust sounds especially at idle. Everything reattached and it definitely sounds better now
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They found a loose crankcase breather hose. Two attach to the air cleaner and one was unattached, hence the extra flutterish exhaust sounds especially at idle. Everything reattached and it definitely sounds better now
Thanks for posting, it could help someone else on this forum, makes you wonder just how diligent the mechanic was.
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I think that's the value of forums like this - there are some things that are really complicated, that it can really help to get a lots of folks with experience and knowledge to help with issues - and there are some things that are just cautionary tales, things to think about and watch out for when bikes go in for service.

I'm a healthcare provider. And I like to think I'm very good. But I know there are things that I miss, so it's natural that a mechanic might miss something too. Good people, doing a good job, but things can slip through.
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