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Kawi Concours vs. Versys 650LT???

Two very different bikes, I know, but the new Versys has me wondering. I purchased a new 2013 Concours in Feb of last year. I love the ride of the bike with the exception of the close to 700 lbs. Riding and cruising, you don't feel the weight, but at low speeds, it's really a hassle. Especially parking and parking lot maneuvering. My roots are in mid-sized bikes and I've always enjoyed the quick handling and ease of riding that type of bike.

I enjoy multi-day trips on the bike, while camping overnight. I've been out for a week many times, especially on the KLR and the Concours.

I'm considering swapping the Concours for a Versys 650LT. I would love to hear your comments and input. How is the ride overall on the Versys? Power? Handling? Thank you!

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I have a 2012 Versys and I think it's one of the best solo sport tourers I've ever ridden. I've had big bikes and like you I keep going back the the mid size bikes, better all around balance of power to weight to handling. What you give up in raw power you get back in quicker handling I think. PLUS it's a lot more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow. Not that the 650LT is slow.

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I believe I answered in your introduction thread, but here goes. The versys shines on the same paved roads where the klr shines. I consider the versys my back roads Tourer and set the gps on shortest distance when riding it. It is capable of interstate speeds and has enough power to pass 90 percent of the cars on the streets. Dealing with the chain while touring is a pain, and you will notice winds more than you do on the Concours.

The concours is designed to go 150mph all day long. It is very stable which means it takes some effort to turn. Some overcome this with a 55 tire on the rear. I didn't notice much difference.
I put 30,000 miles on the '12 concours, and now have around 27000 miles on the '11 versys. I prefer the concours for long and far touring. The versys for weekend camping and exploring.
For me the Versys fell right in the middle between my ninja 650 and klr 650 and replaced both.

You really need to ride one. I never buy a bike without a test ride.

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Two very different bikes, I know, but the new Versys has me wondering. I purchased a new 2013 Concours in Feb of last year. I love the ride of the bike with the exception of the close to 700 lbs. Riding and cruising, you don't feel the weight, but at low speeds, it's really a hassle. Especially parking and parking lot maneuvering. My roots are in mid-sized bikes and I've always enjoyed the quick handling and ease of riding that type of bike.

I enjoy multi-day trips on the bike, while camping overnight. I've been out for a week many times, especially on the KLR and the Concours.

I'm considering swapping the Concours for a Versys 650LT. I would love to hear your comments and input. How is the ride overall on the Versys? Power? Handling? Thank you!
Interesting. If these expeditions of yours require a lot of highway miles, I'd keep the Connie. I have the 1k version of the Versys, but it's still pretty loosey goosey in truck back drafts. They also tend to wag their handlebars at high speeds when the bags are on. Not a fun experience.

If you're more likely to take the back roads, the Versys might be a little less work. Kaw made some nice improvements to this year's Connie. The two that really impress me are the lower friction steering bearing and lesser linked brakes. Both of which will help the beasts low speed manners considerably. Not sure if that stuff is retrofittable.

I really like all the amenities on the Connie. Adjustable windscreen, heated grips, gear indicator, glove box, capacious saddlebags and so on. Nothing wrong with the Versys, but it is a clear step back in the luxury dept. But if you do enough low speed maneuvering that the Connie gets on your nerves, that might be the direction to go.
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...I enjoy multi-day trips on the bike, while camping overnight. I've been out for a week many times, especially on the KLR and the Concours.

I'm considering swapping the Concours for a Versys 650LT. I would love to hear your comments and input. How is the ride overall on the Versys? Power? Handling? Thank you!
After getting a 2015 650LT, my suggestion would be to buy the REGULAR 2015 650V, then add aluminum panniers, rear rack, hand-guards to make an AWESOME light tourer! (I'll PROBABLY do the same, and try to sell the OEM 'bags....)


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After getting a 2015 650LT, my suggestion would be to buy the REGULAR 2015 650V, then add aluminum panniers, rear rack, hand-guards to make an AWESOME light tourer! (I'll PROBABLY do the same, and try to sell the OEM 'bags....)

Interesting, and surprising. I had Givi Trekkers on my KLR and loved them. Why would you rather go with an aftermarket pannier vs. the OEM Kawi?

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Interesting, and surprising. I had Givi Trekkers on my KLR and loved them. Why would you rather go with an aftermarket pannier vs. the OEM Kawi?
Have you seen the goofy shape they made them? If you are packing a bag, good luck stuffing it in that middle school geometry project.
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Interesting, and surprising. I had Givi Trekkers on my KLR and loved them. Why would you rather go with an aftermarket pannier vs. the OEM Kawi?
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Have you seen the goofy shape they made them? If you are packing a bag, good luck stuffing it in that middle school geometry project.
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The oem bags look cool and are super easy to remove. I will agree that they are a weird shape, but they will each hold a 12 pack or a bag of groceries just fine.
I got the oem top case, but decided to only use it in the future when I might take a multi-state trip mainly because it looks too huge back there. I am using a tank bag on the top case bracket and it looks great and is super practical.

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I always buy the liner bags for my saddlebags. No issues with fit and I can carry everything int a hotel room in one trip.

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It might not be important,but the LT also gets a 2 yr. warranty instead of 1 yr. I just purchased mine 2 weeks ago(Canada) and Kawasaki was adding an extra year(for a total of 3 yrs....unlimited mileage and includes 3 yrs. of roadside assistance). That extra year might be for any model though.

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It might not be important,but the LT also gets a 2 yr. warranty instead of 1 yr. I just purchased mine 2 weeks ago(Canada) and Kawasaki was adding an extra year(for a total of 3 yrs....unlimited mileage and includes 3 yrs. of roadside assistance). That extra year might be for any model though.
Actually, most Kaws have 1 year warranties. Mine supposedly has a 2 yr warranty, though the paperwork stated one year. The dealer had to pen in the correction. The Concours actually has a 3 yr warranty.
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I always buy the liner bags for my saddlebags. No issues with fit and I can carry everything int a hotel room in one trip.
Yeah, Kaw does make a goofy bag for it. I wish they would have just left the shape of the bags like yours. My FJR bags would fit in those just fine.

No biggie really, on my last trip I carted the hard bags in the room anyway. Don't even want them on the bike unless I'm traveling and have to carry stuff.
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The V35 form the last few years aren't all that great either. While I do think they look better there's still a quite a bit of wasted space with them...Now my Pelican Boxes Ugly as sin BUT they are big rectangular boxes easy to pack and no wasted space.

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