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Givi vs. SW-Motech Luggage Racks

Hi All,
I was wondering if you could share your experiences and the pros and cons of these luggage rack systems. I am considering purchasing some sidecases (probably V35 PLXs) and an E52 topcase, so I'm interested in hearing some personal experiences on the racks. From what I can tell, there does not seem to be a whole lot of difference aside from the quick removal/attachment of the SW-Motech racks. The Givi racks (FZ-447 and PLX 447) are about $40.00 cheaper. There may also be some slight differences in how the luggage lies on the rack in relation to the bike (slimmer/wider fit), but that appears minimal. Please share any thoughts you may have.
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I didn't go the SW-Motech rack route but I didn't order the Givi Racks for the V35 side cases and saved a couple of hundred bucks. I ordered the Givi racks to fit the E35/E45 side cases and then got E45's. The advantage to that is that if I ever get another bike I can use the E45's on it and don't have to buy all new cases. The E35/E45's are not nearly as 'neat' as the V35 but, for the money I saved I will deal with it.

FWIW, the Givi racks/E45's are wider than the V35's but they are not odd shaped and I can hold quite a bit in them. There was a thread that showed them somewhere, don't have time to search on it.

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I like the Givi top case rack looks good and i have the E55 top case and also can just strap a tail bag to the top case rack

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I would second the motion for Givi Monokey Luggage (E45 or other). This is more universal, and can be used on future bikes. I bought my 36-liter sidebags and 50-liter trunk in 1998 as Triumph/Givi luggage for my Tiger. I only had to buy mounts to put them on my Versys.

I went with SW-Motech, mainly because I like the removeable sidebag mounts. I don't use my sidebags very often, and it only takes a minute or so to put the sidemounts on; so you don't carry around the extra weight and complexity of mounts when you're not using the luggage.

I also like the way the SWM luggage rack replaces the OEM passenger grab handles rather than adds extra tubes the way the Givi racks do. It's just a much neater look when you aren't carrying luggage.

If you will always have your bags on, then yes, the Givi racks are as well made and less expensive to buy. But I felt the easy on/off and appearance of the SWM racks was worth the extra money.

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I have no givi experience. But i do have both sw racks, and they are built well and look good on the bike. Keep an eye out on the forum for people selling their racks. I got my side racks used and saved over 100 bucks.
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I went with the the Givi V35 and the Givi hardware. Love the luggage and the hardware is as solid as a rock and easy to install. I thought about the SW-Motech route, but I never take the luggage off.

The biggest pain will be moving the lights. What to do the turn signal wires. Splice or drill- I drilled and used a grommet.
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hey guys I need your help

Recently I an the fortunatelly owner of a 2010 kawa versys, It is my first big bike and I really feel in love about her ĻsimonaĻ is for me the perfect bike. I have some questions, I was looking for the hard bags for her but in a specialist store they told me that there is not still hard bags for this model, what do you think about it.

My second problem is that in my country Colombia, specially in my city it rains frecuently and I have notive taht the versys does not have a good dirty proteccion, specially with the back seat, Someone have some suggestion to avoid this problem

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I fitted the monokey racks this weekend (both topbox and side) and they are great, easy to fit and if you are fitting both it's not even necessary to move the indicators as suggested in the instructions. When the panniers are not on the side frames they are surprisingly discreet on the bike - a worry for me and why I considered the motech version - which isn't sold over here it turns out, plus the monokey seemed quite a bit more economical also and price was also key for me.

If you would like pics let me know and I can try get some with just the frames, I already have pics up with all the boxes on on my "im sooooo excited" post.
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hey guys I need your help

Recently I an the fortunatelly owner of a 2010 kawa versys, It is my first big bike and I really feel in love about her ĻsimonaĻ is for me the perfect bike. I have some questions, I was looking for the hard bags for her but in a specialist store they told me that there is not still hard bags for this model, what do you think about it.

My second problem is that in my country Colombia, specially in my city it rains frecuently and I have notive taht the versys does not have a good dirty proteccion, specially with the back seat, Someone have some suggestion to avoid this problem

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If i get your question right you want to protect the seat?. I use a 1mil poly bag 30x30 to put over the seat. take seat off put in bag tuck in edges and latch seat down. you can even ride with the bag on stays completly dry.I work at a photography studio we use the bags for large portraits.

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If you would like pics let me know and I can try get some with just the frames, I already have pics up with all the boxes on on my "im sooooo excited" post.
I would love to see a pic of the frames w/o luggage if you don't mind. Particularly interested in the passenger handles and turn signals. I checked out your photos and that looks great!!

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Thanks all for the responses so far. I think that is a very good point to go with monokey cases. E41s were also on my mind and it would be nice to be able to transfer to another moto. Cheaper too! I commute (1hr.)/take long rides often, so I don't think I would be taking the racks on and off very frequently. Cases would be so nice to ease a little pressure on my stuffed backpack! Am correct in assuming that once you get the Givi racks on, you don't want to take them back off to be naked? How long does it take after the initial set-up to get the Givi racks on/off? Again, I don't think I would be doing this, but would still like to have an idea in case the need arises. Thanks!

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Wouldnt take that long to remove, itīs just quite fiddly - say 30 mins to an hour to remove depending on how handy you are...

Putting on for the first time is more fiddly and if you are putting on side and back rack it does take longer.I put on the back frame first on the Saturday, and ended up having to then remove the same screws that I had already removed once already (to put on the back frame) to put the side frames on again(on the Sunday). Tell me if that doesnīt make sense written down ?

Also itīs easier if you have some help since as I say itīs fiddly and there isnīt much room for the tools to hold the nut whilst you tighten the screw.
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Wouldnt take that long to remove, itīs just quite fiddly - say 30 mins to an hour to remove depending on how handy you are...

Putting on for the first time is more fiddly and if you are putting on side and back rack it does take longer.I put on the back frame first on the Saturday, and ended up having to then remove the same screws that I had already removed once already (to put on the back frame) to put the side frames on again(on the Sunday). Tell me if that doesnīt make sense written down ?

Also itīs easier if you have some help since as I say itīs fiddly and there isnīt much room for the tools to hold the nut whilst you tighten the screw.
+1. I have both the PLX447 (Givi) and KZ447 (Kappa), and it took a bit of time. I, too, also had the back rack already mounted, so I suspect it took longer. For the left rear turn signal, the stock wiring is just a bit too short for the relocation bracket. You can either figure out a hole to drill to re-route the wire, or splice it. I spliced. An extension cable with a female and male connector (if you can find them) would be the best solution, as it would allow an easy return to stock.

For the right turn signal, I just re-routed it up the right side of the bike by the frame. Do yourself a favor and set up the lights first before adding the side racks. You can then remove much of the plastic from the rear, which makes it easier to route the cables (well, it did for me, anyways).

However, I have the racks on the bike, and I don't see any need to remove them. I don't think they look bad, even without the cases.

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you can see here how the frames slightly tough the indicators but there is no need to remove and relocate them as the instructions tell you to do.

same here as last

for me they look pretty discreet especially as the bike is the same colour anyway.
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I have had Givi racks on a V-Strom and now have SW Motech racks on my Versys. They are both good racks but for my money, if you can affors the extra $, it's nice to be able to remove the racks easily for a day ride and make the bike look more sporty IMHO. I prefer the SW Motech racks. I have the Evos with Pelican 1550s. I know this is not really a thread about cases but Pelican cases are arguably the toughest made. Their ad shows a Toyots 4 Runner with a wheel parked on one and it still worked afterward. That ought to be good enough to protect the bike in a slide or tipover and I've tested it.
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Thanks all for the replies and photos. Now what to do!? This is one expensive farkle!
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I like the sw motech top rack because it replaces the grab handles. I think it's a cleaner look. Although the grab handles might be more comfortable to grab then the top rack for the passenger. Don't know though...haven't had a passenger yet.
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Thanks all for the replies and photos. Now what to do!? This is one expensive farkle!
If you're worried about the price then why not get a top rack with soft luggage? Soft saddle bags don't require racks and it's easy enough to bungee a small duffle to the top rack. That's what I'm doing.
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For all the gear you see in the pics plus the 33 litre pannier boxes and a back cushion for the topbox, it cost me 566 euros.
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Back when I first bought my 2009 Versys I ordered the V35 Givi side cases and SW-Motec racks. These are the ones that replace the passenger grab handles and do not have the quick release feature. Now I want a rear rack without the top box. Is there a rear rack that will fit this scenario?

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