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gen 3 650 post break-in fuel economy?

I've seen discussion of 2015 Versys fuel economy by people who just bought them, but nothing about the fuel economy post break-in (which I'd expect to be higher). And I found nothing for the gen 3 Versys 650 on fuelly.com .

Post your post break-in fuel economy numbers. 2015 only please--fuel economy numbers for other models or bikes are encouraged if you're comparing them to the numbers you got with your 2015. V650. V1k is OK too, but please specify.
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I've seen discussion of 2015 Versys fuel economy by people who just bought them, but nothing about the fuel economy post break-in (which I'd expect to be higher). And I found nothing for the gen 3 Versys 650 on fuelly.com .

Post your post break-in fuel economy numbers. 2015 only please--fuel economy numbers for other models or bikes are encouraged if you're comparing them to the numbers you got with your 2015. V650. V1k is OK too, but please specify.
I'm not sure if ethanol free makes a difference... but, it's all I use (which is why it looks a bit expensive)...
I also use the Motoman break-in on my bikes, so they're broken in by 40 miles or so...


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Thanks. Wonder if it will continue to creep up a bit. Wish our gas was as cheap as yours.
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Thanks. Wonder if it will continue to creep up a bit. Wish our gas was as cheap as yours.
Cheap? That's all ethanol-free at $3.15-$3.25. About $0.50 to $0.60 more than regular unleaded, around here... Even cheaper a bit further north in South Carolina... But, California is California...

As for the mpg creeping up, I believe it'll come up perhaps a couple of mpg, and then level off (based on previous bikes). It's already in 'gravy' territory based on Fuelly online, however, the warmer weather also helps. It typically drops 1-2 mpg in the dead of winter...
But, yes, I've seen improvements after break-in on most of my bikes. I also typically see the power band improve somewhere around 4-8k...

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Is there a difference between the 2015 650cc engine and/or drivetrain and Gen2 or earlier models?

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I'm starting to see my mileage drop a little as I'm riding the bike harder now that I'm more in the groove with it. I was up around 50 to 52 with a high of 60 but I'm seeing 47 and 48mpg. 2500 miles on it. On the highway if I behave I'm sure I'd get like 52 still.

I spent most of my money on bikes, booze and broads. The rest I wasted.

I'd like to have a bad day, just to see what it feels like.
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Is there a difference between the 2015 650cc engine and/or drivetrain and Gen2 or earlier models?
They've re-mapped the ECU, and made a couple of subtle changes to the exhaust, which Kawi claims has improved both performance and fuel consumption...

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I've seen discussion of 2015 Versys fuel economy by people who just bought them, but nothing about the fuel economy post break-in (which I'd expect to be higher). And I found nothing for the gen 3 Versys 650 on fuelly.com .

Post your post break-in fuel economy numbers. 2015 only please--fuel economy numbers for other models or bikes are encouraged if you're comparing them to the numbers you got with your 2015. V650. V1k is OK too, but please specify.
Check fuelly.com for mileage numbers other Versys owners are getting. Be aware however mileage varies greatly with how a vehicle is driven and where it is driven (highway, back roads or city). I track my mileage religiously on Fuelly.com but it is all over the place, from one tank to another, depending where and how I rode my bike. The real value of tracking mileage, IMO, is to see long term trends rather than short term mileage of a single tank of fuel.
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They've re-mapped the ECU, and made a couple of subtle changes to the exhaust, which Kawi claims has improved both performance and fuel consumption...

How did you remap your ECU?
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Check fuelly.com for mileage numbers other Versys owners are getting.
It's not there--or it wasn't yesterday.
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And I found nothing for the gen 3 Versys 650 on fuelly.com .
Even if it was, there would be few miles, few tanks of gas and much of that would be break-in miles with lower fuel economy than you'd expect after break-in. If it were there with lots of miles and many tanks of gas, I'd simply compare it to the fuelly numbers for the older bikes and my questions would be answered.
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2015 V1K. Pretty much maxed out at 47.4 mpg (per display) on Shell Premium. First tank was about 39 mpg, so break in made quite a difference.

Last tank was BP Premium and mileage decreased a bit to 47.0 mpg. Such a small change could be temperature or riding variance, but I have noticed over the years that I seem to get a little better mileage from Shell fuels.

One nice thing about the BP station is the Premium has its own hose so you are getting more of what you're paying for, though 93 is a little overkill anyway.
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Cheap? That's all ethanol-free at $3.15-$3.25. About $0.50 to $0.60 more than regular unleaded, around here... Even cheaper a bit further north in South Carolina... But, California is California....
Just so you don't feel TOO bad - up here in Kanuckistan (BC, to be exact), gas went from $1.109/L to $124.9/L OVERNIGHT about a week back.

That amounts to an increase of 52.9 cents Cdn/ US gallon, or about 42.3 cents US... OVERNIGHT! (That's about $3.78US/ gallon.)

Would you in the USA put up w/ something like that...?

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How did you remap your ECU?
I didn't. Kawasaki did (on the 2015s).

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Just so you don't feel TOO bad - up here in Kanuckistan (BC, to be exact), gas went from $1.109/L to $124.9/L OVERNIGHT about a week back.

That amounts to an increase of 52.9 cents Cdn/ US gallon, or about 42.3 cents US... OVERNIGHT! (That's about $3.78US/ gallon.)

Would you in the USA put up w/ something like that...?
We saw big jumps in the last month or two as well. And, we *were* at $4.00/US gallon, and above, for a while, a couple of years ago. Now (in the US, anyway), the temporary rise is attributable to a few factors. However, thanks to fracking, which pushed US into the top spot for global producers (despite efforts by this administration to kill fracking, and then taking credit for lower prices), weak European economies which reduces demand, OPECs refusal to cut production, etc., gas (in the US) will be coming back down again after seasonal rises. Our friends up north seem to follow the US trends here...

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That amounts to an increase of 52.9 cents Cdn/ US gallon, or about 42.3 cents US... OVERNIGHT! (That's about $3.78US/ gallon.)

Would you in the USA put up w/ something like that...?
Some of our local stations charge more than that for low grade. For the station closest to my house, mid grade is less top grade is more. Our fluctuations may be less though.

The reasons for our high prices must be transportation costs. It would take me all of 40 minutes to get to the nearest two refineries. If I rode my bicycle. There's another that's about 1/2hr away by motorcycle.
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$124.9/L OVERNIGHT about a week back.
One hundred twenty four point nine Canadian Dollars per liter is indeed a lot to pay for fuel!
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One hundred twenty four point nine Canadian Dollars per liter is indeed a lot to pay for fuel!
I think fast eddie's fingers blew past the decimal point.
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I have about 300 miles on my 650LT and I am see an average of 42MPG so far. I hope that goes up.
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Just so you don't feel TOO bad - up here in Kanuckistan (BC, to be exact), gas went from $1.109/L to $124.9/L OVERNIGHT about a week back.

That amounts to an increase of 52.9 cents Cdn/ US gallon, or about 42.3 cents US... OVERNIGHT! (That's about $3.78US/ gallon.)

Would you in the USA put up w/ something like that...?
As a fellow Kanuckistan, I don't plan on traveling west at those prices Ed




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I have about 300 miles on my 650LT and I am see an average of 42MPG so far. I hope that goes up.
If you're using your speedo's AVG MPG display, don't. While mine's been steadily going up, it's still well below what Fuelly reports (which, if you fill up to the same spot each time, such as the bottom of the neck of the filler tube, is very accurate).
Your speedo makes assumptions it can't possibly reconcile, such as tire pressure, ambient temperature, etc. Fuelly doesn't need those parameters. It works with the actual volume of gas replaced, and the actual distance traveled (your speedo is off a few percent, however your odo is dead on).

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