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Your opinions are most welcome please...

Guys,

I have announced in the past that I will be buying the S10...now I need yout help with the following choices:

1- S10 2014 blue new no farklera for 10500 usd but I have to pay 6000 usd for import duties (f***** bas*****!!!!)

2- versys 1000 2012 fully farkled for 6000 usd and I pay 1900 usd for import duties (still f***** bas*****!!!!)

I was really up for the S10 but the tolal cost is just too much for me...I tries to find some 2012 model to lower the import duties down to 2800usd but no luck (I am searching the canadian market by the way)

Now I really feel down...


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That seems a bit high, 6000 USD just to import it!

Unfortunately yes, the import customs calculated the duties based on the actual date of circulation of the bike and not its model year...so even if you buy a 2010 model new and you use it for the first time in 2015 you gonna pay the percentage of its market value in 2010...it is just crazy! It Pissed me off


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save your money and move to were they dont rape you on "import" tax

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Guys,

I have announced in the past that I will be buying the S10...now I need yout help with the following choices:

1- S10 2014 blue new no farklera for 10500 usd but I have to pay 6000 usd for import duties (f***** bas*****!!!!)

2- versys 1000 2012 fully farkled for 6000 usd and I pay 1900 usd for import duties (still f***** bas*****!!!!)
A Chevy pickup or a V1K? Odd choice. I'd go with the bike.
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save your money and move to were they dont rape you on "import" tax
first idea that came to my mind...not a bad one at all!
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A Chevy pickup or a V1K? Odd choice. I'd go with the bike.
the S10 is not as heavy as you may think, believe me I tried it and it is really well balanced and with center of gravity you don't feel much of its weight...
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the S10 is not as heavy as you may think, believe me I tried it and it is really well balanced and with center of gravity you don't feel much of its weight...
Sorry, it was an attempt at humor. Not sure what an S10 is in your neck of the woods, but in Amurica it's one of these:

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You did not state your location, I'm assuming Canada. Something is wrong if you are importing from US to Canada in your pricing estimates. You pay $200 RIV fee and HST, that's it, see RIV web site. BTW I thought the S10 was a pickup truck as in Chevy S10.

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Yeah I'm a little lost here too. I don't know what bike refers to an S10 either, Super Tenere? BUT I'd choose the 2012 Versys 1000 in a heartbeat. Fully farkeled AND cheaper,


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Since the '12 Versys Was never in the US, I'm assuming he is trying to export out of Canada. I don't know what an s10 bike is either. I could guess an s10 is super 10nere`

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Sorry, it was an attempt at humor. Not sure what an S10 is in your neck of the woods, but in Amurica it's one of these:

I knew this guy was a poser

Buy the S10 Its so far ahead of anything Kawasaki can do that its no contest!

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There has been a very small percentage of cam chain tensioner problems with the Super Tenere. The 2014 models have an upgraded design. I (personally) would go with a 2014 model.

You get shaft drive, three mode traction control, two mode ECM, ABS, and electronic cruise control.

(no cruise control on the 2012 model)

The ES model comes also with heated grips and electronically adjustable suspension.
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Sorry, it was an attempt at humor. Not sure what an S10 is in your neck of the woods, but in Amurica it's one of these:

Call me a dumb American, but yeah a S10 is a tiny chevy pickup truck. Really cool when you throw a 350 in there though.

either way I would stick with the V, but I only say that because I know about it and have long dreamed of being able to have a 1000cc V.

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I wonder if the v35s could mount to the super tenere. I've had those bags on two bikes now and told myself that I would always own a bike that could use them.

Why is it that only moto guzzi offers smaller displacement bikes with driveshaft? My '77 xs750 had a driveshaft.

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Here is a little thread to help you in your research
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...5850&page=1771

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I wonder if the v35s could mount to the super tenere. I've had those bags on two bikes now and told myself that I would always own a bike that could use them.

Why is it that only moto guzzi offers smaller displacement bikes with driveshaft? My '77 xs750 had a driveshaft.

It can. There is a rack for super tenere

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00AKB2598/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/280-1571417-3124727
I do have v35 too and I will keep them which ever bike I will buy


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He is in the US from what I know. WHY I believe this is that there are NO US model Versys 1000's available to the US until the new 2015's. So he must be getting the V and quite possibly the Tenure from Canada.


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He is in the US from what I know. WHY I believe this is that there are NO US model Versys 1000's available to the US until the new 2015's. So he must be getting the V and quite possibly the Tenure from Canada.
There are plenty of S10s here in the US though. The 2014 model is supposed to be better on the road and adds cruise control.

I think he's said that looking to Canada for the bike was supposed to save $$, but import duties seem to make up for it.

wheelsinmotion in Chatsworth California is always advertising new Yamahas on CL for low prices. I think discounts can be had even in my state.

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Why is it that only moto guzzi offers smaller displacement bikes with driveshaft? My '77 xs750 had a driveshaft.
It's kinda weird how shafts fell out of favor except in the heavyweight segment. At least as done by Yamaha it seems like they were extremely reliable.

Moto Guzzi has the new V7 II coming to the US later this year. They've added a modern transmission and ABS to the V7. It also gets traction control--though I doubt the lack of traction control was a huge problem on the old one. I'm interested in the new one, but I'd be more interested if the power weren't so low. I'd also be more interested if it used modern radial tire sizes.
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I did manufacturing engineering work in auto industry for about 9 years. It's as simple as:

Chevy No (as in never),

Versys Yes, you're done.

Of course if you are in Canada, you almost need 3 or 4 wheels to drive year round. I'd go for a 3 wheel, 2 front wheels tilt, BMW scooter engine maker Piaggio 500cc in a second in Canada! Hopefully their front end patents will expire in a few more years and we can get more models like this with hard tops like in Europe. But that would really bang the US auto industry hard if that happened.


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ok guys sorry for the confusing "S10" which is referring to the super tenere

I am not importing it to US, I am importing it to north Africa where I am stationed now and wanted to do a long trip in some neighboring countries here with my wife...given the excessive amount of import duties, I will just wait until I go to US or eventually obtain a tax exempt status somewhere here....I got to work it out!
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