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LAMS v's full power versions.

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I've bought a 2011 650 and wondering what' s the difference between the LAMS and full power versions? and whats needed to convert the LAMS version to a full power version ?

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Easy peasy, there is a screw in the throttle boby which prevents full throttle opening it's a torx security screw. There is a plug under the seat pull it out and voila, full powerrrrrrrrr. I'll find my pix and show you
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The screw just above the throttle cable with the brass washer next to the phillips head screw.


you can see it's removed in this photo



this plug under the seat remove it (tape up the connector so no **** gets in it)

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OK, not being an Aussie I'll bite. What's a LAMS version? Limited Arse-Mashing Speed?

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OK, not being an Aussie I'll bite. What's a LAMS version? Limited Arse Mashing Speed?
correct well done

when you first get your bike license you cant go over a max CC and or power to weight ratio, for your first year... just another nanny state Law.

so the manufacturers put these restrictors in place so they can sell to both license markets.
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correct well done

when you first get your bike license you cant go over a max CC and or power to weight ratio, for your first year... just another nanny state Law.

so the manufacturers put these restrictors in place so they can sell to both license markets.
Suspected something like that. At least it's easily "corrected" on the Versus. Thanks for the explanation.

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Learner Approved Motorcycles

Under the LAM Scheme class RE motorcycle licence holders can only ride a learner approved motorcycle.

A learner approved motorcycle is a production motorcycle that is fitted with an electric motor, or has an internal combustion engine with a capacity of not more than 660mL, and:

a power-to-weight ratio that does not exceed 150 kW/t
has not been modified other than for an allowable modification
is included on the LAM Scheme list of approved motorcycles.

Hope this helps
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Thankks heaps MaverickAus

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The throttle stop screw is restricting throttle to turn only upto ~70%.

the under seat connector is the diagnostics plug and LAMs bikes put is a jumper wire going to earth. The ECU uses the signal to runs a lower power fuel map or limit the fuel map over 70% throttle to keep the power restricted.

But... if you get a Healtech gear indicator, this plugs into the diagnostic port - got it

You don't really need to remove the stop screw - I did a track day with laps with the stop on and off... for a learner the max 70% throttle is still plenty powerful - enough to still lift the front wheel. (oh maybe a Power Commander had something to do with wheel lift :wink: :wink:

A good thing about the LAMs bike is that it does hold it's 2nd hand value a bit better as it is still a cheap bike for a learner to buy.
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The throttle stop screw is restricting throttle to turn only upto ~70%.

the under seat connector is the diagnostics plug and LAMs bikes put is a jumper wire going to earth. The ECU uses the signal to runs a lower power fuel map or limit the fuel map over 70% throttle to keep the power restricted.

But... if you get a Healtech gear indicator, this plugs into the diagnostic port - got it

You don't really need to remove the stop screw - I did a track day with laps with the stop on and off... for a learner the max 70% throttle is still plenty powerful - enough to still lift the front wheel. (oh maybe a Power Commander had something to do with wheel lift :wink: :wink:

A good thing about the LAMs bike is that it does hold it's 2nd hand value a bit better as it is still a cheap bike for a learner to buy.
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It's not that simple. You can't just remove the plug and screw and make it "non-LAMS"

Firstly, if you do, it's illegal, even if you have an open license. A LAMS bike is a LAMS bike, and changing anything relating to it's power rating makes it illegal, and you run into all sorts of insurance and fines if you get caught or have an accident.

Second, while you CAN go to Main Roads (at least here in QLD) and have it reclassified legally as Non-LAMS, once you do there's no going back. They will not let you again change it back to LAMS.

Finally, some insurance companies will not let you insure what they then consider a modified LAMS bike. SWANN is an example. I have confirmed this myself, in writing, via their underwriters.

Is it sensible? Welcome to the Nanny-Country, were every stupid bureaucrat wants a bit of the pie, regardless how dumb it is.
But that's the law. Push it at your own risk. If you're a rider on a restricted license, you'd have to be a bloody fool to remove restrictions regardless. The cops WILL look for it if you get pulled up, and if you're in an accident, they DO check (Swann again confirmed this) and you can kiss your insurance goodbye.
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Sounds like a real "crock".............
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3 years on and I'm still riding my Lams Versys

know what you are doing.
Ride more worry less
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