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Pirelli Angel ST down to wires.

I posted this earlier today on the Facebook Versys group.

Note: I fully understand the danger of this and I took the risk. I would like to share the experience.

Pirelli Angel ST with 9,500 miles. 2,000 miles is mine and 7,500 from previous owner.

I was 310 miles from home when I noticed black rubber turning grey and an inch of hairline wire in the middle of the tire. Getting another tire wasn't an option yesterday. I set the PSI to 36 and headed home. 200 miles out of 310 later, hairline wire became full blown visible. I kept speed between 55MPH - 65MPH. Temperature at 37F.

I don't have a picture after the entire travel. I rode over poop and I put the cover on without knowing...

80 miles of 310


200 miles of 310
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Makes my gut tighten when I see anyone riding a tire in that shape. Ya only got two and if one blows you have big problems. I'd rather "Give" a few miles rubber away and change before I am in deep straits than risk it.

Or was that look THEN leap?
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Makes my gut tighten when I see anyone riding a tire in that shape. Ya only got two and if one blows you have big problems. I'd rather "Give" a few miles rubber away and change before I am in deep straits than risk it.
I agree with you.

I wanted to do my trip on the V before I winterized it this week and I took the risk. I shouldn't have, but I did. I didn't like doing it, but it happened.

Lesson learned. I really underestimated the life left on it. It was honestly due 2,000 miles ago.
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glad you made it safe, carefull were you post that xD people will tear you up on pnw riders for those huge chicken strips
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glad you made it safe, carefull were you post that xD people will tear you up on pnw riders for those huge chicken strips
Does it count that I've only had it for 2,000 out of 9,500 miles on that chicken strips? And I rather not go far with the tire since I don't have full history of it.
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... I kept speed between 55MPH - 65MPH.
Good idea, you can never be too careful.
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glad you made it safe, carefull were you post that xD people will tear you up on pnw riders for those huge chicken strips
those chicken strips are so big they could be sold at the Colonel's...
I've seen similar bare patches on fellow rider's bikes with about as much distance from home as you..and in the middle of nowhere...you're safe until the steel threads actually start to shred...watch for the low tread marks next time and save yourself a lot of worry and sweat...
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those chicken strips are so big they could be sold at the Colonel's...
I've seen similar bare patches on fellow rider's bikes with about as much distance from home as you..and in the middle of nowhere...you're safe until the steel threads actually start to shred...watch for the low tread marks next time and save yourself a lot of worry and sweat...
ya in younger dumber years i made that same mistake as well as dry rotted and going over 150 mph suffered tread separation and slid on my as$ for over a 1/4 mile, very very totaled the bike and broke some bones....
now days if it goes over lets say 30 mph ... tires get inspected befor ass goes on seat
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Used the ST once, and had the same thing.after that PR3 for my next 2 tyres , never bothered with the pirellis ever

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I gotta say, that's one heck of a risk you took. I'm glad you got home safely, but it's not worth it in my opinion. There had to be another option.

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I gotta say, that's one heck of a risk you took. I'm glad you got home safely, but it's not worth it in my opinion. There had to be another option.
ya i agree.... tho sounds like the only other option was to not ride and what kind of option is that
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That tyre was not far away from splitting in two!!!
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On one of my Alaska trips, I was at Canadian Customs (coming N from Skagway), #2 to a BMW w/ a rear tire looking like those pics. I asked permission from the Officer to talk to the guy, told him, and his reaction...?

"No problem - its got LOTS of life left!"



What an idiot. I kept watch on both ditches as I traveled that hwy, but saw nothing. Guess he survived...?


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My brothers Diablos did the same thing. I noticed something shiny on the rear as I rode behind him. I thought he picked up a nail.
It was just a small spot. 50 miles later it was all around and we had 200 to go.
It was a looong 200 miles
Once you see the cords, it happens fast.
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dang...looking at some of those tires..some of you all need to move where they have some curves in the road...here in Oregon we have more roads that can break a snake's back (aka really twisty) than you can shake a stick at...I've seen one yellow twisty road sign with a smaller sign below it: next 180 miles...
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dang...looking at some of those tires..some of you all need to move where they have some curves in the road...here in Oregon we have more roads that can break a snake's back (aka really twisty) than you can shake a stick at...I've seen one yellow twisty road sign with a smaller sign below it: next 180 miles...
we also have one way roads that end on another one way road head on xD
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I gotta say, that's one heck of a risk you took. I'm glad you got home safely, but it's not worth it in my opinion. There had to be another option.
Yes, true. I could have rented a car, drove five hours home, leave the V unattended for a week and then return to it a week later with a new tire and find a dealership or mount it myself in the middle of a city, but I didn't like that option. Costly. But then again, I did put myself in the situation by making the trip with a a tire like that and it could have been preventable.

Lesson learned. I didn't like the stress while riding back.

Also, I'm selling chicken strips.
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That tire was ready to be changed LONG before it got in that shape. A little dilligence in inspection and maintenance goes a long way in making sure you don't have a REALLY bad day. Of course, the trip shouldn't have been started on a tire like that. But, Instead of renting a car, you could have rented a U-Haul to get the bike, and yourself home safely.

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