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Hardwire GPS?

Got a new Versys yesterday and would like to mount a GPS.

I'm not looking to invest alot of money in the project.
I have a Garmin Nuvi 200 for my truck and want to use that on the bike as well. I know this is not ideal but I think it will get me through the few times I will use it.

I would like to hardwire it and I like things to be neat and tidy. I have seen some just use a cig lighter outlet and plug into it. Then there would be the extra cord to deal with, and while this would work I wouldn't consider this ideal.

I was thinking of getting an extra power cord and cutting off the gig lighter end and hard wiring it to the power sorce. The other end would be up at the mount ready for use. Just plug in and go. Will this work? Any other suggestions? I plan to wire a distribution block with a relay (as posted on here somewhere) to run the GPS and grip heaters.

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Yeah that should work fine, I am in the process of hardwiring my GPS.
The GPS draws very little power. You could tap power after the relay but before the switch for the grips, so that the GPS power is switched but not only on when your grip heaters are on.
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I hard-wired my GPS. I tapped into the DRLs beside the headlight. That way power is ONLY on when the ignition key is selected to ON. Without going back in to have a look, I BELIEVE I wired the GPS with it's fuse in the line. (You DON'T want to tap into the power feed for either the high or low beams... don't ask HOW I know that....)

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I was thinking of getting an extra power cord and cutting off the gig lighter end and hard wiring it to the power sorce. The other end would be up at the mount ready for use. Just plug in and go. Will this work?
DO NOT try this!

According to specifications on Garmin's website, the Nuvi 200 is rated for 5 watts max.

This means there are electronics within the cigarette lighter plug that reduce the voltage to 5 watts max, which is typical for car-based gps units.

If you remove the plug and wire directly to your bike's system, you will be overloading the electronics in the GPS with 12-14.4 volts. What happens next? You toast your GPS.

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i got a new GPS and mounted my old garmin GPS V on my bike last week. i bought a cigarette lighter splitter at the local radioshack and cut off the one end. i tapped into the wire coming from the horn fuse under the seat so it only has power when the key is on. the advantage of this for me was that the radioshack splitter was cheaper than the garmin cord and i didnt feel bad cutting it. i also have a place to plug in anything else i might need, such as a cell phone charger, should that become important.
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5 watts is the current draw, not the voltage.


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DO NOT try this!

According to specifications on Garmin's website, the Nuvi 200 is rated for 5 watts max.

This means there are electronics within the cigarette lighter plug that reduce the voltage to 5 watts max, which is typical for car-based gps units.

If you remove the plug and wire directly to your bike's system, you will be overloading the electronics in the GPS with 12-14.4 volts. What happens next? You toast your GPS.
You are correct. I looked at the plug and it says 12v input and 5v output. I guess I have to get a cig lighter outlet.

Thanks for the heads up.

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I stand corrected also.


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I would like to hardwire it and I like things to be neat and tidy.
This is what I used. I put my own ends on the wire and took it to the battery.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Garmin-nuvi-200-...item2c523befcf

I took that splitter apart and used RTV to waterproof it. There is a little board inside that doesnt like water!
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5 watts is the current draw, not the voltage.

Good catch Randy49.

I got lucky with the "5" number, but I did post "watts" and not "volts".

I knew the voltage was also less than 12V.
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I hardwired mine to the V fuse box under the saddle, just found a 'switched' fuse, pulled it out shoved the wire into the slot and crammed the fuse back in. Found a ground near the headlight and its been working great for 23k miles.

BTW, on my TomTom GPS, when the power is off, the GPS switches to battery, so you have to remember to turn the GPS off as well.



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personally, i found adding a lighter socket to the v to be ideal. That way i can plug in not onlu my gps, but my cell phone chrager when need be, as well as mp3 player charer... Etc.


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Personally, i found that adding a ciggy lighter was my best option. That way i can plug in and unplug thr gps as need be. The power source is as removableas the unit. Furthermore, i can charge my cell phone or mp3 player from the same socket.


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I've got a Nuvi 265WT that I hardwired using a switchable accessory wiring block. I also have a 12V socket close by.

http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ighlight=a2ron

I mounted my Nuvi: http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...7&postcount=14

There are a couple of sources for the Nuvi 12V direct wire harness, or you can build your own sacrificing the 12V plug that comes with the Nuvi. A couple dissections on some other fourms (advrider.com) show what is inside the plug and wiring options.

I also carry a USB charging adapter for the 12V socket, I can use the same USB-miniUSB cable to charge my cell phone, MP3 player and Nuvi if I need too.

I have the flush mount Belkin USB 12V adapter so it doesnt stick out like the regular 12V adapters.


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Thanks for all the advice. After further considering some thoughts you guys had, I decided to just wire a 12v accessory outlet for now. Seemed like the most universal being able to us it for the GPS, phone and Ipod. While the Nuvi will work for now I'm guessing I may upgrade down the road and will hardwire then. I got the outlet installed and my heated grips hooked up today. The dash panel sure gives a nice easy mounting platform. Should have my GPS mount finished tomorrow.

Thanks, Mike
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Got the GPS hotwired from the Cig Lighter and GPS comes ON when Key switch is On. Simple and trouble free with 2 fuses in between. One for the cig lighter and one that came with the GPS.
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I hardwired my Zumo 450. Just ran a line straight from the battery to the RAM mount and it is no problem. There is a fuse in the Zumo's power cord and I usually pull the unit when I park, so no draw on the battery all the time. Easy, simple and pretty foolproof, though being a major league fool I am waiting for the other shoe to fall...

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