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Initial chain adjustment done

Having just replaced the chain and front sprocket, I flipped the rear, the bottom fell out here and the bike's been sitting. Yesterday I made a run of about 100 miles and it was cold and damp. BUT the bike ran great so today I went back out and on the way in I wash the bike. I got it on the pit stands and checked the chain it was a bit loose so I did a quick adjustment and it's about 1 3/8" play now. I lubed it and cleaned the wheels good to get the excess wax off. However I did the adjustment on the pit stand not the sidestand/floor. I don't see as there would be any real difference BUT should I redo it?

BTW the speedo is no longer jumping up and down a couple MPH and the vibrations I had started the notice is all but gone. I went to a 16t up front and there are these radar signs here that show you your speed against the posted speed, no ticket thankfully! It's dead on now, before I was a bit under. BUT the bike still has enough "POKE" to get-up and roll. I'm turning about 7200 RPM at 70mph now and the bike feels much more relaxed.

Or was that look THEN leap?
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Yes,you should put it on the side stand and re-adjust. It should be tight right now. I run mine a little loose.
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My primitive brain working here:
Shouldn't make a difference on the chain adjustment. With the tire on the floor (sidestand) the forces downward of the bike's weight, and the forces upward on the swingarm (since the rear axle runs right through it) shouldn't be much different than supporting the bike on swingarm spools that are attached to? Right, the swingarm. The tire, or the spools, will put the pivot of the swingarm arm in roughly the same place. You are not unloading the rear suspension when you use a swingarm lift stand, nor changing much in the physics of weights and forces.

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Doesn't make sense, try shifting into 5th and 6th.
Probably meant 5,200.
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My primitive brain working here:
Shouldn't make a difference on the chain adjustment. With the tire on the floor (sidestand) the forces downward of the bike's weight, and the forces upward on the swingarm (since the rear axle runs right through it) shouldn't be much different than supporting the bike on swingarm spools that are attached to? Right, the swingarm. The tire, or the spools, will put the pivot of the swingarm arm in roughly the same place. You are not unloading the rear suspension when you use a swingarm lift stand, nor changing much in the physics of weights and forces.
I'm from the same school but stuck in the 'Maths in space' class of hating angles.
I like to adjust the chain while on the spools.
1) It frees the rear wheel to rotate and not load up the chain
2) chain alignment cannot be done while on the side stand! Those stupid angles again - the bike lean on sidestand pulls the chain left-of-center.
3) when doing the rear axel nut up, the axel is sitting squarely in the bearings with no side loading - again those angles!

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Eye want are-gu wit fisics,my mager wus inglsh. I like to sit on the bike after a adjustment and have another person check the slack. Again, I run mine a little loose on my bikes with longer travel. The factory alignment marks have been good to me for quite sometime. I tend to use the KISS principle, that allows me more time to ride than trying to wrap my brain around something that has never been an issue...yet. If/when that time comes, I will (maybe) re-think my thunking!

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I find the chain gets tighter while sitting on it as opposed to on a center stand. With spools the weight of the bike is still on the spring so it should be the same as with the tire on the ground.

They do tighten up when you sit on them, but I have always assumed that the manufacturer is smart enough to spec the slack so that a straight line from the sprocket through the swingarm to rear axle would not bind it.

I always error on too loose as opposed to too tight, especially with a chain that has variable wear.
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My primitive brain working here:
Shouldn't make a difference on the chain adjustment. With the tire on the floor (sidestand) the forces downward of the bike's weight, and the forces upward on the swingarm (since the rear axle runs right through it) shouldn't be much different than supporting the bike on swingarm spools that are attached to? Right, the swingarm. The tire, or the spools, will put the pivot of the swingarm arm in roughly the same place. You are not unloading the rear suspension when you use a swingarm lift stand, nor changing much in the physics of weights and forces.
I am with Rick on this, a center stand is different.
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...I don't see as there would be any real difference BUT should I redo it? ...I'm turning about 7200 RPM at 70mph now and the bike feels much more relaxed.
No, to question 1; and I believe somewhere around 5,000 rpm is more accurate.

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No, to question 1; and I believe somewhere around 5,000 rpm is more accurate.

Sorry I was a bit tired last night PLUS my helmets a bit tight I think and cutting off circulation. BUT it is 5,200 RPM.

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