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Noob here. Hope people are more friendly than ADV...

I want a V. Love the looks, and the 18hours on a V thread sold me on the gravelability ( that is a word, look it up).

I really want ABS however. Personal issues have convinced me that I need it, but I want switchable. Has anyone heard of a rumor of ABS on upcoming V's?

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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-19-2010, 03:32 PM
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I haven't heard anything about it myself. Just curious, is this your first bike?

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Noob here. Hope people are more friendly than ADV...

I want a V. Love the looks, and the 18hours on a V thread sold me on the gravelability ( that is a word, look it up).

I really want ABS however. Personal issues have convinced me that I need it, but I want switchable. Has anyone heard of a rumor of ABS on upcoming V's?
Many rumors. Seems like each year, the rumors fly. No ABS for us so far. And as ugly as the 2010 model is, they may have sealed the Versys's fate.


In my opinion of course...



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If you need ABS, look into the BMW models. There are some pretty neat and similar bikes that they offer.
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If you need ABS, look into the BMW models. There are some pretty neat and similar bikes that they offer.
The 650 v-strom is available with ABS and quite gravelable.
If you must have ABS, you ruled out the Versys.
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I'd hate to see anyone rule the V out for not having abs. Besides having one shipped from overseas, I'm sure the bike it set up to have it, but I would imagine diff, wheels/discs beside the abs unit itself. Probably an expensive add on!! I have never ridden a bike with abs so I am not sure of the results. In a 4 wheeled vehicle it would probably be more controled than with 2. The times I have locked the rear up stopping for quick lights I've always been able to ride it out smoothly while adding a little more front brake. Stop every time.
Any body ridden with abs on a bike???
Def. ride the V. It is a great bike!!

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I'd hate to see anyone rule the V out for not having abs. Besides having one shipped from overseas, I'm sure the bike it set up to have it, but I would imagine diff, wheels/discs beside the abs unit itself. Probably an expensive add on!! I have never ridden a bike with abs so I am not sure of the results. In a 4 wheeled vehicle it would probably be more controled than with 2. The times I have locked the rear up stopping for quick lights I've always been able to ride it out smoothly while adding a little more front brake. Stop every time.
Any body ridden with abs on a bike???
Def. ride the V. It is a great bike!!

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I have driven a 2009 FLHP Harley, a 2008 GL1800 Gold Wing, and a CanAM Spyder all with anti-locks and I can say they WILL STOP.... but even that is no replacement for practice. There is just no replacement for practice! On the CanAM it was scary stop I was doing a test demo ride at a Motorcycle Rodeo and the CanAm rep told me to really get on it so I stomped the rear brake only (they are linked with the fronts) at about 65 it was all I could do to hold on I was tossed all the way forward and all into the handle bars there was no opportunity for any evasive action had it been required... I say this to say Practice, Had I practices I would have been better prepared for the reaction my body would have on the CanAM.

find a place where you can get to 40mph and just mark 20 places on the ground about 70 feet apart and practice, start off at 20mph steady your speed and practice with rear brake only and then front brake only and then both. then go to 30mph and practice use both brakes and then go to 40mph

FOR ME I don't mind the no Anti-lock but I practice

here is a example video it is called a brake and escape (not me in the video)

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If you need ABS, look into the BMW models. There are some pretty neat and similar bikes that they offer.
If he buy's a BMW then he will morph into one of those unfriendlies on ADV that he talked about in his OP ....... Assuming that the word Gravelability is real , and you intend to ride the bike off-road or at least on "loose" roads , consider that ABS is not the best option , My good friend rode a GS1200 Adventure to Argentina from Canada , lot's of off highway stuff , and the brakes were an issue , being linked front and rear is not good on a steep wet grassy slope ............**note: While ABS offers improved vehicle control, and may decrease stopping distances on dry and especially slippery surfaces, it can also increase braking distance on loose surfaces such as snow and gravel . Also if you want switchable , the price of the bike will far exceed a Verseys ...........good luck and inform us of what you get .....

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...I really want ABS however. Personal issues have convinced me that I need it, but I want switchable. Has anyone heard of a rumor of ABS on upcoming V's?
Can you elaborate on this? I am trying to understand the cost/benefit argument for/against ABS. Is it just a peace-of-mind thing or a real world necessity for you?

Then again, the only time to switch off the ABS is when you're in the dirt. Plan to go there much?

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I have been riding for years and feel good on the dirt (live in Colorado) and the street. I am convinced that ABS is a good option, I just want to be able to turn it off like BMW's do. I just don't want a Beemer.

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