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Some Noob Questions

Hi Everyone,

I'm interested in getting a motorbike this spring and I'm not entirely sure what would suit me best. Hoping for a little guidance and info.

I was in Europe for a year, driving a Vespa around (). My friend had a CBR that was pretty sick and that was my first time on a street bike.

My main use for the bike will be commutes, city riding and the occasional road trip under 400km.

I'm 6'2", about 180.

I've picked out a few options. The Ninja 250R or the Versys (or something else in that price range). I'm open to other manufacturers too (I realize this is a Kawasaki forum however).

I'm not into racing or riding extremely fast, I'm more just into the enjoyment of being on a bike. I don't need the most powerful machine either, but on the highway I may appreciate it. Not sure if the Ninja would be up to it. I do however like the performance aspect of it vs the more upright style of the Versys, but again, I'm really new to this whole scene.

And a final question, with good maintenance and care, how much life can I expect out of one of these bikes?

Thanks for any suggestions. Happy holidays.
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Welcome to the Versys forums, I reckon your right in thinking the 250r wouldn't be up to it, thats not to say its not a very capable machine. i had 2 of the real early gpz250r versions and it was a great 'Little' bike.

I think you may find at your height that the 250 may be a little to small for you, and if you plan on doing any smaller trips it would get a little uncomfortable anything over an hour or so.

The Versys on the other hand is imo substantially more suitable for what your suggesting, if your not going to Fang it too much you can do what a lot of the Forum members have done and get a set of Speedy's peg lowering blocks,(give you that little bit more leg room)

You also have a much more relaxed riding style and owing to the extra height you can actually see whats happening a least a couple of cars in front of you (your actually at a similar height to a 4x4 driver) which makes it much safer for the commute.

As far as life of the bike i have no idea, but as Kawasaki have used this motor in 3 different bikes, and I'm yet to read of an issue with the motors in this or any other forum. i can only surmise that with regular maintenance they will be around for a very long time.

Good luck with your purchase
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with you size the 250r is too small for you. if you want a upright (pretty much straight up and down positioning) the versys will suit you well. it has enough power and is a wise through traffic, scary good in traffic. it also has no problem with weight. also the suspension is very supple. maintenance on the bike is very little and cheap and people are getting a ton of miles out of the sucker

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Ninja 250 is a great commuter bike , I know 2 guys who are 6 ' or better that rode them ( for some time) . No complaints ......... That said if you want a bit more power , but want to keep it sane

Kawasaki---- Ninja 650R , or a Verseys
http://www.beginnermotorcyclereviews...ki-ninja-650r/

Suzuki -------GS 500 or Bandit 650

http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/11...d-650s-my-2009

Yamaha ------ Fazer 600 http://www.motorbikestoday.com/revie..._fazer6_04.htm
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I bought an '08 Ninja 250R as my "get back into motorcycles" bike after a LONG absence. I was not sure how often I would ride and did not want to start too big or $$. It's a great little bike and out handles the big boys on twisty roads. It is down on power but, at 6'1", I found it hurt my back, knees and neck. The saddle really sucked and had to be replaced right away. Even with a Corbin my butt hurt after an hour or so.

In June I picked up a left over '08 Yamaha FZ6 and absolutely love it. Sporty yet comfortable and plenty of power. I thought I was going to get a Versys but could not come to terms with the looks and very upright sitting position. I still think it's a great choice but also found the FZ6 to be put together a bit better. Too bad Yamaha dropped it in 2010. They now have an FZ6R which has less power than the FZ6, cheaper frame, brakes, etc. It does have a full faring, like the Ninja, and adjustable seat and bars. You should check it out as well.

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Six, at 6'2 you have three choices: #1-Versys, #2-Versys, #3-Versys. I would recommend the '09 over the ugly, more expensive '10 model. The Versys is in a class by itself and you won't outgrow it as you would the little Ninja. So easy to ride. Worst case scenario- You want a bigger, more powerful bike. The Versys becomes a second bike. It would not compete with anything else in your stable. This bike is stone reliable. Two mods I would suggest is to go with a 16 tooth front sprocket (easy) to relax it on the highway and a better wind screen. That's it ( for now). This bike is plenty fast for real world and will handle as good as you want. Simple to maintain, 2 1/2 quarts of oil, spin on filter, no need to remove plastics. Great gas mileage, light weight, cassette style gear box can be removed without splitting the case, I could go on. Oh, get the green.
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If you're not planning to ride more than a couple hundred miles at a time the 250r might be fine for you.
Even the 650r might be a good choice.
I've known tall guys who rode sportier bikes comfortably.

The Versys is definitely going to be the most comfortable of the three, though.
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... Two mods I would suggest is to go with a 16 tooth front sprocket (easy) to relax it on the highway and a better wind screen. That's it ( for now). This bike is plenty fast for real world and will handle as good as you want. Simple to maintain, 2 1/2 quarts of oil, spin on filter, no need to remove plastics. Great gas mileage, light weight, cassette style gear box can be removed without splitting the case, I could go on. Oh, get the green.
PLUS, I suggest you'd want to get the MotoWerke footpeg lowering blocks to increase leg-room.

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I had the same options when buying my first bike. The V or the 250 ninja. Im soooooooo glad i went with the V. Im 6-2, 230, and its very comfy for me, perfect height. It also has enough power when you call on it, but also wont throw you off the seat if your careful. Its my first bike, and I love it.
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I am 6'0" and my brother is 6'2" and we both started on the 250R. Never had issues with comfort. And as long as you are traveling 55mph (don't know the equivalent kph) it wasn't an issue on power. As soon as you have longer freeway time (70mph+) I would recommend a bigger bike than the 250R.

If you are in a windy area, I would also suggest a heavier bike than the 250. That sucker got knocked around a bit. Although, I do miss having full fairings.
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I was faced with similar choices

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Until I took a safe rider course I was thinking of a 250 or a 450, but after using both Honda and Suzi 250's I understod what people said about a small bike and a big guy not being a good combination.

I ended up looking at the V-Strom and the Versys - the V-Strom having a slight advantage on the dirt and the Versys as a commuter. My heart pictures me exploring dirt roads, but in reality I expect the majority of my travel will be commuting and black-top.

This is my first bike in 25+ years and I look forward to using it when the weather warms - I bought it just in time to tuck it into bed for the winter.

It was reviews like MCN test: BMW F650GS, Kawasaki Versys, Suzuki DL650 V-Strom and webBikeWorld.com that convinced me to buy the Versys.

Although I have had Miss Jaffa (Burnt Orange 2007 Versys) for a while, I still have a lot to learn.


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Hmm. Seems like the answers are all over the board. I think I'll have to focus on where and how I'll be using the bike and that might narrow it down a little bit. Lots of praise about the Versys, but is it as fun as the Ninja?

I'll give those other bikes a look as well. Thanks for the info!
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Hmm. Seems like the answers are all over the board. I think I'll have to focus on where and how I'll be using the bike and that might narrow it down a little bit. Lots of praise about the Versys, but is it as fun as the Ninja?

I'll give those other bikes a look as well. Thanks for the info!
the only relevant opinion is yours. its your ride, its your cash

y'dont say how much riding experience you have.

fwiw I'd guess that a 250 will not have enough grunt and will probably bore you very quickly, you will then either get another bike or leave riding.

I've heard it said in many places that a bike in the range of 500..750 has enough power for most circumstances. So I'd suggest that you look for bikes in that sort of range, say 50BHP to say 80, mebbe 100BHP.

I don't think you will have a problem riding a Versys, its well up there with smiles per gallon. its still pretty highly rated some 4 years after initial launch.

as to whats the right bike for you thats really only something you can decide. the Versys isn't a stellar performance in any specific market segment, it is however very good in most segments.
if you are an out out speed freak by a race rep, faired 500/600/650
if you want to trundle buy a harley dinosaur
if you want to go off road buy a specialist off road bike
if you want to thrash the backroads then a versys is right up there
its a good commuter, in the city its sit up and beg style is fantastic for observing whats going on.

if you are buying secondhand the the WeeStrom (650 VStrom) will be available cheaper its been out longer so there are cheaper models.
if you are buying new then theres not that much difference,

if it were me I'd buy a Versys, ive had 14,000 odd miles on a Verys in 11 months. its never let me down, it does what I want. but I'm 50 I don't get involved in traffic light grand prix's, I'm not interested in top speed or terminal velocity. I am interested in riding for fun, that means not just riding but going to off the beaten track locations, enjoying the scenery and so on
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Hmm. Seems like the answers are all over the board. I think I'll have to focus on where and how I'll be using the bike and that might narrow it down a little bit. Lots of praise about the Versys, but is it as fun as the Ninja?

I'll give those other bikes a look as well. Thanks for the info!
you know the 650r should be another option, plenty of power, priced a few bucks less than the versys....has the rice rocket riding style, the versys has more of a standard (sit-up) style, which is more comfortable for myself.
The 650r is the versys but shorter and has a full fairing.
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