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Valve Shims

Got a left over '12 in November, the faster black one. Anyway, coming up on 10,000 miles and will adjust valves, clean air filter and sync throttle bodies, oh yeah, change plugs to NGK CR9EK.

Got a shim kit in the mail today, Hot Cams HCSHIM01. Has 3 ea 1.20 to 3.50 mm in 0.05 increments 144 shims for about $62 all in. Factory shim are $5 - $10/ea from Kawi.

They look pretty good. Marked Made in Taiwan. Each shim is etched with size. Haven't miked any yet to see how accurate the markings are.

Cheapest place I found it was Amazon with free shipping.

I was toying with the idea of starting a traveling shim kit, use it put your used shims in it and pass it on to the next guy.
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That sounds like a great idea... pity you are not in Australia.
I will need check my shims shortly.
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You will typically only need shims that are between about 2.80 mm to 3.10 mm. They usually need to be slightly thinner than original. I thinned and switched some shims around, to set all my inlet valves' clearances at 0.18 mm, and exhausts at 0.26 mm at middle of spec range. I used wet fine emery cloth on a flat wood surface to thin some of my original shims.

If you're not up to the task, you can get 7.48 mm diameter shims (same as Versys) in 0.025 mm increments (instead of only 0.050 mm increments) in 2.50 mm to 3.50 mm thicknesses from your Kawasaki or Suzuki dealer.

Suzuki 2004-2005 RM-Z250 shims $8.47
Kawasaki 2006-2011 KX-250F shims $8.96
(Versys shims 0.050 mm increments $11.78)

Shim ------- Suzuki # ----- Kawasaki #

2.800mm - K9218-00179 - 92180-0179
2.825mm - K9218-00180 - 92180-0180
2.850mm - K9218-00181 - 92180-0181
2.875mm - K9218-00182 - 92180-0182
2.900mm - K9218-00183 - 92180-0183
2.925mm - K9218-00184 - 92180-0184
2.950mm - K9218-00185 - 92180-0185
2.975mm - K9218-00186 - 92180-0186
3.000mm - K9218-00187 - 92180-0187
3.025mm - K9218-00188 - 92180-0188
3.050mm - K9218-00189 - 92180-0189
3.075mm - K9218-00190 - 92180-0190
3.100mm - K9218-00191 - 92180-0191
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Very good information. It depends on how much convenience is worth to you. On my first valve adjustment I pull both cams and map the location and size of every shim. I keep this original map so that I can track the trends in clearance movement. After I make a valve adjustment I have an updated map. Valve seldom move much usually getting tighter so I keep the next size smaller on every valve on hand.

I keep a collection of shims for the KLR in a 35mm film container. I also have a collection of shims for the ZX-10R (even smaller than the Versys size).

The kit contains 144 shims. From Kawasaki that would be $1,696.32 plus shipping. Only $1,219.68 for Suzuki. Plus you get a nice case from Hotcams.
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I'm w/ invader. After the FIRST valve check where I bought new shims I've just removed material (as he posted) to make my shims the NEW size required in the last three or four adjustments I've done.

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Last time I did that on a Lotus. Took me about an hour to remove 0.001".
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did you ever test the accuracy of the shims? i was thinking about ordering the same kit for whenever i get the balls to do my valves

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did you ever test the accuracy of the shims? i was thinking about ordering the same kit for whenever i get the balls to do my valves
I DID for my first 'shim' check. NONE of the new ones were what they claimed to be, but the mechanic allowed me to go thru his 'used shims' box and I was able to EXACTLY match what I needed (I adjust to the WIDE END OF THE SPECS!), and as a result I began 'sanding' mine down to what I needed.

You're pretty handy w/ tools - suggest you go the same route...!

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I DID for my first 'shim' check. NONE of the new ones were what they claimed to be, but the mechanic allowed me to go thru his 'used shims' box and I was able to EXACTLY match what I needed (I adjust to the WIDE END OF THE SPECS!), and as a result I began 'sanding' mine down to what I needed.

You're pretty handy w/ tools - suggest you go the same route...!

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ya i guess its time to invest in some good calipers (only have a crappy harbor freight one) and some good sand paper...


thanks for the info

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