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Question Interesting noise I'm hearing, I need help.

Hello guys,

I have a question which is killing me

I do have a 2013 Versys 650, I purchased 2.5 month ago. After 1000km service maintenance, how to say "Puffing / Popping / Friction noise started

I do have still warranty on it and I went to dealer twice, and they told me that, that's normal. And I'm not sure how did they check it. But I don't know, It doesn't seems to normal to me. It starts coming after 3 gear and especially on the highway I'm hearing a lot.

Please watch the video, between 5.30 min to 6.07 min you will hear the noise. I do have the exactly same noise.

Guys, what is this noise? It wasn't coming before service maintenance.
(Right now It's on 8000km)
If you can help me, I'll be thankful.

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Go to another dealer, that sound is not normal. It sounds like grinding metal.
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Yes. Check rear brake. If rear brake caliper mounting bolts are well tightened, inspect brake pads for dirt stuck in the groove, check rear brake rotor... How's your chain tension?

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The strange part of that noise is it was really noticeable near the end of your mentioned time when the throttle was rolled on. Then, it went away when the throttle was let off. If it was rotational, it would have occurred during the entire sequence. I may have thought it was brake related until he jumped on the gas at the end. I'm stumped.
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Wait a minute... That's not your video. It is therefore inadmissible.
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Guys, thank you very much for helping me. As Apollo Bleed mentioned, It's exactly grinding metal noise.

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How's your chain tension?
It's good. I'm not an expert but I measured the chain, it look like good.

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The strange part of that noise is it was really noticeable near the end of your mentioned time when the throttle was rolled on. Then, it went away when the throttle was let off. If it was rotational, it would have occurred during the entire sequence. I may have thought it was brake related until he jumped on the gas at the end. I'm stumped.
I'm stumped too I don't know what should I do with this problem. There was 2 Kawasaki dealer in Toronto, one of them is recently went bankrupt (which I purchased the bike from) and the other one's not interesting about this noise...


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Wait a minute... That's not your video. It is therefore inadmissible.
Yes you are absolutely right. I should have ask his permission before. I sent a PM to video's owner, If he doesn't give me a permission, I'll contact with moderators for deleting the topic. Thanks for your mention.
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No, I mean I can't absolutely rely on it to diagnose your problem.
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No, I mean I can't absolutely rely on it to diagnose your problem.
Oh, sorry about misunderstanding

Right. I shared his video because I don't have a Go Pro.
I tried my chance because I'm not able to show mine
but the noise is %100 same, I'm hearing it since 7000km along so I can say

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What mileage are you at now? is the noise coming from rear brake, drive chain, mufller?

Tug and tap on your muffler's outlet heat shield to see it's vibrating itself apart.

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What mileage are you at now? is the noise coming from rear brake, drive chain, mufller?

Tug and tap on your muffler's outlet heat shield to see it's vibrating itself apart.
THAT is what it sounded like to me...a piece of sheet metal buzzing. I'd check that shield.

On a off chance check the chain for proper alignment and lube it. DON'T rely on the marks on the swingarm measure it!

Or was that look THEN leap?
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What mileage are you at now? is the noise coming from rear brake, drive chain, mufller?

Tug and tap on your muffler's outlet heat shield to see it's vibrating itself apart.
It's on 8200 km. I don't know exactly where is it coming from but probably at rear, I couldn't find it exactly
But after your messages I started thinking about noise such as it's coming from the chain. I think chain is grinding to exhaust (stock) I guess, because they are too close


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THAT is what it sounded like to me...a piece of sheet metal buzzing. I'd check that shield.

On a off chance check the chain for proper alignment and lube it. DON'T rely on the marks on the swingarm measure it!
The chain looks really good but I guess, as I mentioned It's grinding to exhaust. I don't understand too much mechanic things, this week I'll try my chance one more time for going to dealer. But how am I supposed to induce them? They are saying that's normal. They didn't even ride it on highway, I do have a warranty but it's not helpful to me


Is that the only me is having this problem in this website? I hope nobody will have it, because It's really worst then common buzzing noise...
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Have you inspected your muffler and its heat shield at the tail pipe in front of rear tire?
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Have you inspected your muffler and its heat shield at the tail pipe in front of rear tire?
Yeah, when I heard the noise I first checked all exhaust system, I was wondering about any cracked or something on it. But It seems there is no any cracked. How should I inspect it, is there any other recommendation?

I'm so sorry guys, I asking a lot of questions :S

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Do you have a rear lift to rotate rear wheel by hand? Can you get an audio clip of your noise?
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Do you have a rear lift to rotate rear wheel by hand? Can you get an audio clip of your noise?
I do have. I'm able to do that but the think is, noise comes after third gear.
If I rotate wheel by my hand It won't come, I have tried. Should I go third gear on the lift?

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As this my video I can inform you're all wrong. The noise you hear is actually from the mobius action camera innards. I have tried endlessly to fix it thinking it was the mounts. No matter where it is placed it still produced the same noise at the same speed. If I mount my Drift Ghost - S, there is no noise other than from the bike and it sounds very different.

If your bike is producing the same noise it is pure coincidence. Chain tension could be an issue.

Interesting diagnosis list, all the same!

Also, bare in mind that when an action camera is mounted to anything that transmits vibration using its built in mic (as the mobius was) the vibration or noise can come from a number of places.

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Just out of interest, if you forward to 6:09 on this Caberg review where I blasted it down a dirt track, just before the clip fades into another, the same sound just about comes it. It is mechanical frequency making the mobius react internally. And you can hear it at the very start when the camera was mounted on the bars, but my lazy ass couldn't be bother to delete out of the intro! And you can clearly hear the vibration on the front facing scene. It's the same but at different peaks

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Good call, BKKPhil, especially if its mounted solid on the motorcycle... That's why I'd like to hear Haluk's Versys, and idealy inspect it in person.

How much chain slack is there with rear suspension fully extended, and does your chain tension vary as you rotate rear wheel?

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One other thing i forgot. Not too long ago service for some reason adjusted the clamp which holds the muffler and downpipe together. The bolt was actually hammering its way through the sump. Took me ages to figger out where the noise was coming from. When i put my foot on the muffler, the noise stopped. The clamping bolt was the issue.
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Is it coming from the right side of the engine?

Iconia had the same complaint, also from 3rd gear and up, and which is also not resolved.

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Hey Guys,

Lately I've been hearing a scratching noise or metallic rubbing of some sort coming from the engine area. Like taking sandpaper and rubbing circles on metal.

I've ruled out its not chain, brakes, suspension, or steering.

It will only make the noise 3rd gear and up, at speed ~4k and up rpm.
If i'm doing 70mph on the freeway, I hear the noise, pull the clutch in to coast, no noise.
Can't reproduce it on the rear stand.

So far, I've replaced the clutch lever, clutch cable, clutch springs, and clutch plates. Basket bearings looked great.
No metal bits in the oil.
Performed valve clearance adjustment, no problem there.

Anyone experience the same? The bike is running great, plenty of power and great MPG's.

Thanks for the assistance!

*edit, Currently at 16k Miles, I DD 50 miles a day.
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Hey Invader, the noise has stayed the same before and afer the new parts, clutch was fine but I thought it might have been worn. Im pretty sure its comming from the clutch side, Its only noticeable at speed. currently at 16k and its a 09.
chain and sprockets have about 1k on them.
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