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ABS Works. That is all.

Tried out the ABS today, not on purpose.

Some idiot decided to just throw his brakes on in front of me and I had cars to the side of me. So I did all I could do which was convulsively grab the brakes. ABS kicked in and the thing hitched to a stop right before I slammed into the guy.

So just so you know...it works. heh.
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Glad to hear they did their job and that you're alright!

Just out of curiosity, can you turn off the ABS if you wanted to ride dirt?

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Good to hear. Ive already been in a couple situations where ABS would have been nice.
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Glad to hear they did their job and that you're alright!

Just out of curiosity, can you turn off the ABS if you wanted to ride dirt?
Not a switch exactly, but you can remove the fuse that powers the ABS.
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Glad to hear they worked for you.

Guess maybe you should back off from the cars ahead of you in the future.

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You know ABS increases stopping distance, right? Yes, it will get you to a stop, but it won't do it in the shortest distance possible.

And I'm not an ABS hater, I replaced my '10 Versys with a '14 ABS Versys.
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You know ABS increases stopping distance, right? Yes, it will get you to a stop, but it won't do it in the shortest distance possible.

And I'm not an ABS hater, I replaced my '10 Versys with a '14 ABS Versys.
For most drivers/riders it WILL stop shorter. Because they don't know how to get the most from their brakes, or don't practise if they have been taught. Just look at all the skid marks on the road going INTO a intersecion. Once you lock yhe brakes you're just along for the ride.


In the rain I'd rather have ABS than to try and get the most out of the brakes I could by modulating the manually.

Or was that look THEN leap?
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I watched some pretty impressive demos of BMWs ABS on wet pavement.
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Guess maybe you should back off from the cars ahead of you in the future.


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Glad to hear they worked for you.

Guess maybe you should back off from the cars ahead of you in the future.
I wasn't really on his butt. I am very careful about the distance I keep from other drivers. It's part of the reason I have never had an accident in 20 years riding the street. It was rush hour and like usual things were grouped tighter. Sometimes you can't control all the variables. My only point in the post was it was nice to have ABS in that situation as many experienced riders have went down in that situation and it may have had a hand in my not going down.
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Not sure of the reason for the claps. Seems a might uncalled for.

Get all the facts before clapping. Just saying.
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Good to hear that the ABS works well. Here in the Philippines, only the non-ABS (2013) model seems to be available, which is part of the reason why I don't yet have one. I've been trying to wait out the importer for the ABS version.
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Glad to hear it.

We have a couple with ABS. Thankfully have never had to find out if it works.
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Not sure of the reason for the claps. Seems a might uncalled for.

Get all the facts before clapping. Just saying.

Thought it was funny.....Lighten Up..

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Thought it was funny.....Lighten Up..
You are right. I probably should a little.
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I wasn't really on his butt. I am very careful about the distance I keep from other drivers. It's part of the reason I have never had an accident in 20 years riding the street. It was rush hour and like usual things were grouped tighter. Sometimes you can't control all the variables. My only point in the post was it was nice to have ABS in that situation as many experienced riders have went down in that situation and it may have had a hand in my not going down.
Guess I should have put a wink after my post. I avoid rush hour by either varying my work time, staying and working out, or stopping for dinner to let the traffic clear. Even when I am in traffic, I am on heightened alert mode and try to leave enough distance without leaving too much distance. It is frustrating because more wrecks happen when people tailgate at speed and it just slows everyone down.

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Not a switch exactly, but you can remove the fuse that powers the ABS.
Do you know which fuse is it?
I am planning to do a offroad trip in October, and I thinking about this option.

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Did you even read the article?

"“Grabbing a handful of front brake at 70 mph on a lightweight sportbike on asphalt is one thing, but on loose gravel on a bike that weighs more than 500 pounds is scary,” Dudek admitted. “If the front started to lock, the bike would lose stability and I would slightly release the lever and then reapply pressure until I was in control, but it was a handful. With Off-road ABS on, the Adventure comes to a halt faster than I anticipated it would and without the messy locking and unlocking sensation found on older ABS systems. And the consistency was much better with ABS; I tried my hardest, but I just couldn’t beat the computer.”"

That is a test of Bosch's latest and greatest ABS system that only KTM uses so far, and the test is off road. Versys has a very old ABS system, the bike has had the same Bosch ABS system since it came out in '07. The ABS unit in the Versys is pretty old tech, it only works in a straight line with the bike upright. Grab a handful of brake on an ABS Versys mid corner and you're going to go down. The ABS on the KTM is state of the art ABS technology, it works off road, mid corner, etc.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn/ne...cornering-abs/

ABS vs non ABS in dry and wet, using a ZX-10R

http://www.superstreetbike.com/featu...oesnt-need-abs

In dry pavement I can clearly feel how the braking force decreases once the ABS kicks in. Although I do have lots of experience, tons of trackdays and I've been riding daily for the last 11 years, I know how to brake properly.

I got the ABS for the rain. One thing is to do threshold braking in the dry and other thing is to do it in the rain, specially when you're commuting among mindless zombies in their cages.

So yes, ABS is safer, I have no doubt about that, that is why I got a '14 Versys with ABS. But in the dry, in pavement, ABS is not the fastest way to stop, specially when it is combined with very poor technique:

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So I did all I could do which was convulsively grab the brakes. ABS kicked in and the thing hitched to a stop right before I slammed into the guy.
Grab a handful of brake, with the front wheel unloaded, and the ABS will kick in right away. Little load on the front wheel = little traction = little braking = ABS kicking in too early. As there is little braking going on, there will be little weight transfer, which will not aid in traction, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5wqqg97r4E

Combined with good technique, as in gradually braking to load the front wheel, it will prevent loss of control if you go over the traction limit.

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Wish i would have had ABS when that car made a U-Turn in front of me....Might have saved me a lot of pain...

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