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Ever see a Versys-based flat track racer?

Now you have. I went to the final round of the AMA Pro Flat Track series at Pomona, CA last night... my first and certainly not last flat track event. Fantastic racing! But the biggest surprise was seeing this green meanie competing in the Grand National Twins championship. Rider Brock Schwarzenbacher raced the bike for AMA Hall of Fame tuner and Harley legend Bill Werner's factory Kawasaki effort. Sorry for the crappy iPhone pics, but I thought y'all might want to see this bike!

Brock didn't have the best of nights; he qualified way back in the pack, got bad position on the grid and didn't make the main. But his V looked pretty fast on the backstretch!
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The race drew a pretty decent crowd, filling the Fairplex grandstands as far as I could see, but strangely there were not a lot of bikes in the parking lot. I did not see any other Versyii, which kind of surprised me.

"Versii?"
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Pretty cool. It would've been great if he would've finished well. I guess the versys just isn't meant for racing. But it sure is fun tooling around the twisties...



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Did they tell you it was based on a Versys? From the pics, the bikes look so heavily modified that they could well be based on the ninja 650 as well.

The forks, swing arm are what deters me from that, the ninja has low forks and similar swing arm and being low, eases the transformation to the flattracker instead of the Versys, JMO.
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The forks look like 650r.
The swingarm and rear shock look like neither.
The rear shock is mounted near vertical on that beast.

Either way you were right, those are some pics worth looking at.
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Did they tell you it was based on a Versys? From the pics, the bikes look so heavily modified that they could well be based on the ninja 650 as well.

The forks, swing arm are what deters me from that, the ninja has low forks and similar swing arm and being low, eases the transformation to the flattracker instead of the Versys, JMO.
I spoke very briefly with Schwarzenbacher. I told him I rode a Versys and he pointed to the racebike and said "That's your bike" or words to that effect. I asked him if this was the factory Kawasaki team and he answered affirmatively, and then a look on his face made me think he suddenly realized he wasn't talking to a big time flat track fan.

But you're right. Since the Versys itself is based on the Ninja 650, ultimately so is any factory racer coming out of Big Green. But when I saw it, the first thing I thought was "Versys!"
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Killer!

I like it! I used to race flat track and have often thought that the power band of the Vee would be a blast on a dirt track. It sits too high and the wheelbase is too short, but with some modifications, I could have a ball sliding it through the high line.
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Have these bikes shown up to race this season anywhere?
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All the time. I saw them race in Prescott at Yavapai Downs Mile.

The Kawasaki's are doing better as the season progresses.

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How do they sound?

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Pretty good really. They have a nice distinctive note. But the flat trackers all kinda sound alike when theyre on the rev limiter and they're on the limiter quite a bit.
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Kawasaki wins it's first ever Mile at Indy!

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I saw that in Cycle News, the online version. Pretty Cool
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It's funny. I hear that suddenly today, a group of HD owners are trying to meet with DMG (the group in charge of ama flattrack) to allow them to remove the carburetor restrictors.
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Aren't those bikes 750's? Wussies I tell ya!
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Aren't those bikes 750's? Wussies I tell ya!
LOL. Yeah, the Hd's are 750's. The Ducati's are 1100's. The Suzuki's are 1000's. The Triumph is an 865. The kawi is....well...no one knows for sure. It started life as an EX650R, but it may not be 650 now. There are a lot of nuances to the rules, but "race only" are limited to 750cc. Production "street engines" are limited to 1200cc. Production engines under 650cc may be bored up to 750cc. There's not much room to bore the 650R motor due to cylinder design. It can be stroked though! You can bet your butt that Kawi 650 is pulling 100hp and they're having special cranks made for it.

Good on 'em I say!
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Yeah, I've read about this bike a few times. I thought it was based on an eBay sourced 650r, and was built up and developed by Bill Werner, maybe the greatest flattrack tuner alive. Glad to see it win! The more brands winning, the better for the sport.
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When Kawasaki doesn't win, you don't ever see them running and crying to the AMA. Time to set the Vintage Iron aside and let the modern stuff operate the way it was intended which is not to be hobbled up by some made up out of the blue nonsense rule.
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...And it won again today at the springfield mile. It's not exactly outrunning the harleys, bryan smith is just riding the wheels off the thing to get there.
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