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So, I've got stock tires still but they're at the end of their life. (8k miles on them) I'm looking at jumping on the Michelin PR3 or PR4 bandwagon. My concern is, I have a big road trip coming up. I'll be riding from VA to CA and it will all be boring interstate. I like the appeal of the PR4 being 20% hard down the center. My question is, is this trip going to break these tires in, in a poor way. My normal riding is 80% twisty back roads, 20% city. I'd hate to put new tires on and then wear them down poorly by putting 3500 highway miles on them. My chicken strips will be huge still when I'm done When this trip is over I wanna be able to jump on the twisties without have squared tires ya know what I mean? Maybe these are the irrational fears of a noob. Your input is appreciated.
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Irrational rear. I notice squared off tires most when I go from them to nice new tires. Wearin' off the middle has no affect on the tires ability to corner.
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Doesn't sound like you have much choice. You can't head cross country in those old tires.
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....or you could go for the Shinko 009s just for this trip. Virginia to Cali about 3000 miles one way, so you will have 6000 when you're done. You can change to PR3 or 4 after that if you don't like the 009's performance. ( I am not connected with Shinko. I just use them all the time.) Where in VA are you?

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I'm in Northern VA. Fairfax.
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That'll square off any tire.

Sorry..

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Irrational rear. I notice squared off tires most when I go from them to nice new tires. Wearin' off the middle has no affect on the tires ability to corner.
I, on the other hand, seem to be more sensitive to squared off tires. My rear PR3 has about 9k miles on it and I feel the squared middle every time I turn a corner in the city and it feels a little more squirrley on the highway too. Maybe it's all in my head, but I recently started lacking confidence when doing city speed right hand turns. I checked the rear tire and there's a very noticeable corner on the rear tire. FWIW, I also got about 9k miles out of the PR2 I had on there previously.

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So, I've got stock tires still but they're at the end of their life. (8k miles on them) I'm looking at jumping on the Michelin PR3 or PR4 bandwagon. My concern is, I have a big road trip coming up. I'll be riding from VA to CA and it will all be boring interstate. I like the appeal of the PR4 being 20% hard down the center. My question is, is this trip going to break these tires in, in a poor way. My normal riding is 80% twisty back roads, 20% city. I'd hate to put new tires on and then wear them down poorly by putting 3500 highway miles on them. My chicken strips will be huge still when I'm done When this trip is over I wanna be able to jump on the twisties without have squared tires ya know what I mean? Maybe these are the irrational fears of a noob. Your input is appreciated.
Buy yourself a cheap tire for the trip and just take it off and throw it away when you get back. That's better than wearing out an expensive tire on the interstate.
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I'll be riding from VA to CA and it will all be boring interstate... I'd hate to put new tires on and then wear them down poorly by putting 3500 highway miles on them.
Go with your car instead.
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I don't know how the heck you got 8k out of the stock Dunlops. I was showing steel at 5k. Regardless, I'm very happy with the Shinko 009s I'm running now.
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As has been said, any tire is gonna get squared off if you're slabbing it across the country. And you can certainly corner on a squared tire, but handling isn't as nice.

There are lots of great tires out there, and your next tire won't be your last tire. You may need a new rear tire when you return from your trip (are you returning from your trip?). If not sooner.

Don't know what your plans are but there some nice roads to ride out west. Have fun.
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Regardless, I'm very happy with the Shinko 009s I'm running now.
I am too. This might be a good time to experience a different tire. I would plan on that trip using up your rear tire. You will still be able to corner with a squared tire, but why would you want too? The performance would be compromised.

On top of that, driving at steady highway speeds for thousands of miles really wears a tire more than say, local straight line riding. I remember riding from Orlando to Poughkeepsie round trip. At the rest stops I would have balled up rubber all over my rear battleaxe.
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Is this going to be a round trip? If so, throw on some cheapies and replace them when you get back to VA. Squared off tires still have good edges on them for curves, but initial effort to lean the bike will require a bit more effort and not give a true progession through the lean, but it should be manageable.


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This is a 1 way trip on the bike. Due to time constraints, we are freighting our bikes back to VA and spending a week in Napa/San Fran area seeing the sites. Would love to ride back but the man won't let me take that much time off.
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Boy you guys get great mileage out of your pr3's. I only managed 5393 miles on the pr3 . I am on to the pr4 now , will see what the mileage will be on this tire all this since Aug. 8 2013
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I don't know how the heck you got 8k out of the stock Dunlops. I was showing steel at 5k....
Got 10,008 miles out of the AZ OEM Dunlop rear, and 11,545 miles out of the OEM front on BIG RED. 36psi F, 42psi R.

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I would put the shinkos on and save the super premium tires for the twisties
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