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I'm doing a 7000 km trip in May so I need some way of raising the rear wheel to lube the chain, so I bought a Packjack .
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I'll let you know in June how happy I am with it.
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Cool. Smart design and easy to use. All the way from Canada.

So you're using it at its lowest setting? You could go 2 holes higher, so it could actually be cut and made even more compact.

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I'm thinking of investing in one of these so I can lube my chain on the long, multiple day trips. Is that the adjustable one that isn't on the website? Just call to order that one? The one shown on the site doesn't appear to have the adjustment.

Let us know how you like it after you've used it for a bit!
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Cool. Smart design and easy to use. All the way from Canada.

So you're using it at its lowest setting? You could go 2 holes higher, so it could actually be cut and made even more compact.
Wouldn't that make it less stable? I'd be afraid more leverage against the point where it makes contact would eventually bend or break. And if you had cut it, and it fails Pack Jack isn't gonna back it.
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If you are handy with simple tools, you could do what I did. I took a piece of PVC pipe, cut it to the correct length, made a "saddle shaped" cut in the top. For added strength, I epoxied a wood dowel inside the pipe. But it worked fine with out it. It's very light weight, and inexpensive. It also serves as a storage unit for emergency repair materials. I wraped about 5 feet of electrical tape around it to be used for potential electrical repairs. And I used a few rubber bands to lash several zip ties to it. I also lash a mini bungee cord to it, that I used to compress the front brake lever, before propping up the bike on the PVC stand. I also lock the steering head when I do this. It keeps the bike from rolling off the prop stand. All this, and it takes up very little space in my smallish Givi hard bags. I've been using this for years. Works great.
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Great idea, Trialsguy!
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If you are handy with simple tools, you could do what I did. I took a piece of PVC pipe, cut it to the correct length, made a "saddle shaped" cut in the top. For added strength, I epoxied a wood dowel inside the pipe. But it worked fine with out it. It's very light weight, and inexpensive. It also serves as a storage unit for emergency repair materials. I wraped about 5 feet of electrical tape around it to be used for potential electrical repairs. And I used a few rubber bands to lash several zip ties to it. I also lash a mini bungee cord to it, that I used to compress the front brake lever, before propping up the bike on the PVC stand. I also lock the steering head when I do this. It keeps the bike from rolling off the prop stand. All this, and it takes up very little space in my smallish Givi hard bags. I've been using this for years. Works great.
Pix??!!
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Sure, when I get home tonight.
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If you are handy with simple tools, you could do what I did. I took a piece of PVC pipe, cut it to the correct length, made a "saddle shaped" cut in the top. For added strength, I epoxied a wood dowel inside the pipe. But it worked fine with out it. It's very light weight, and inexpensive. It also serves as a storage unit for emergency repair materials. I wraped about 5 feet of electrical tape around it to be used for potential electrical repairs. And I used a few rubber bands to lash several zip ties to it. I also lash a mini bungee cord to it, that I used to compress the front brake lever, before propping up the bike on the PVC stand. I also lock the steering head when I do this. It keeps the bike from rolling off the prop stand. All this, and it takes up very little space in my smallish Givi hard bags. I've been using this for years. Works great.
I never knew about the PackJack until a couple years ago. This is what I used on my ER6N back then (before I picked up a rear stand).
http://youtu.be/iyYuY34uVM8
I like the idea of setting the front brake and locking the steering. I didn't do that, but only used my prop on a level garage floor. When I posted this video on another forum some of the members freaked out, haha. "OMG, don't DO that, don't you know how weak a 1X2" piece of wood is?", "Your bike could easily slide off that piece of wood, or worse yet, roll forward", etc. Most of these comments were from PackJack users. Seriously, you're only lifting the bike like a half inch, the catastrophic result of the wood shattering would be that the tire would drop a half inch, and I would have to continue cleaning and lubing the chain by rolling the bike.
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I've got a packjack i bought from a member of this site. For use to clean my chain when parked in a city environ it is worth its weight in gold. The one downside is that if you have to use it while parked on a street that slopes slightly towards the curb (ie. most streets) it helps to have someone chock their foot against the sidestand whilst engaging it. I've had it sort of slip out to wind up with a fully engaged packjack and a bike just slighty further away from me and solidly on the ground. This could also have something to do with my flatfoot. I always lock my front brake with a little band of velcro i keep on her for this and other reasons. Patching a tire between parked cars in midtown? No problem. And it fits nicely in my topcase.


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If you are handy with simple tools, you could do what I did. I took a piece of PVC pipe, cut it to the correct length, made a "saddle shaped" cut in the top. For added strength, I epoxied a wood dowel inside the pipe. But it worked fine with out it. It's very light weight, and inexpensive. It also serves as a storage unit for emergency repair materials. I wraped about 5 feet of electrical tape around it to be used for potential electrical repairs. And I used a few rubber bands to lash several zip ties to it. I also lash a mini bungee cord to it, that I used to compress the front brake lever, before propping up the bike on the PVC stand. I also lock the steering head when I do this. It keeps the bike from rolling off the prop stand. All this, and it takes up very little space in my smallish Givi hard bags. I've been using this for years. Works great.
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I have a packjack too, it works pretty good, but it helps if you're on a rough surface, it tends to slip on a concrete floor, not that it's unusable, just easier to use if you have it on a rougher surface. For the amount of space it takes up in my top case, it's well worth it.
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I'm thinking of investing in one of these so I can lube my chain on the long, multiple day trips. Is that the adjustable one that isn't on the website? Just call to order that one? The one shown on the site doesn't appear to have the adjustment.

Let us know how you like it after you've used it for a bit!
I emailed him (I'm in Australia) but yes just tell him you want the adjustable one (in fact he told me the adjustable one was right for the V). And yes he hasn't got it on the website yet. You also need to tell him axle or spools, the one I have won't go under the axle.
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Thank you sir for taking the time to post photos. Gives me ideas....
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Thank you sir for taking the time to post photos. Gives me ideas....
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Thank you sir for taking the time to post photos. Gives me ideas....
Also, with the overall length at 14 inches (13 3/4" to the bottom of the indent) as shown in the photo, this prop works well on both hard and soft parking surfaces. When I'm camping, my parking spot is dirt (which is softer than concrete or asphalt), and I align the prop more vertical. That way a stock sized tire will clear the ground easily. When I use it on pavement, I angle it slightly, slanting forward, so that the rear tire clears the ground 1/4" or so, but is not so high that the bike appears "tippy".

I don't believe that there is a lighter, stronger, less expensive, user friendly, lift design out there. Hmmm... maybe one made from a carbon fiber tube... nah, too expensive. Besides, on a long trip, a carbon fiber tube packed in my bag, could rub a hole in my rain gear or something.
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I emailed him (I'm in Australia) but yes just tell him you want the adjustable one (in fact he told me the adjustable one was right for the V). And yes he hasn't got it on the website yet. You also need to tell him axle or spools, the one I have won't go under the axle.
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I'm using one I made for the KLR, allthread, steel tubing, wingnut and hexnuts. Wingnut doublenutted on top of the allthread serves as cradle. All thread slides inside of steel tubing. Nut below double nut serves as adjustment. Can't remember the size but about 3/8", I just played around 'til I found some allthread that would fit inside some steel tube.

I believe that Eagle Mike, the guy that makes the doohickey for the KLR and a bunch of other stuff makes a very nice one as well.
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I should say too, when I ordered it I ordered the wrong one and he actually called me to let me know that and make sure that I got the right one.
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