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front or rear sprocket, handling changes.

Ello ello,
Been following the sprocket threads with interest, the idea of having a longer 1st gear sounds great.
Went and had a chat to the local kawa dealer, no prob getting a 43T, though he was an ex spannerman and asked if anyone on the forums noticed the difference in handling ? Wheelbase length changed...

Does anyone who has done this mod notice any marked handling changes ?

Maybe you have to be Rossi to notice them ? in which case I'll be fine
Though after my 1st trackday a month back, Rossi best watch out
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The increase in wheelbase and reduction in unsprung reciprocating mass is minimal (45T steel with taller 150/70 tire = near 15/44), and has no perceivable effect on handling, stability and ride quality. Besides effect on gearing, last year's 16/46 sprockets didn't affect handling either... My ROC sprocket is thinner at the base, and I also cut the studs down flush with the nuts.
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Colin Edwards would notice!

Us forum dwellers, probably not so much.
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Cheers for the reply, much appreciated
Now off to buy a 43T
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Might want to consider 44t. Made my speedometer spot-on, and still has good pull from down low.
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g'day texrider,
From what I can gather, pple seem to think there is no discernible loss of power with 43T ?
Do you feel that 1st gear is longer/long enough with 44T ?
Some traffic lights I would definitely like a longer 1st.
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I've noticed that I get across most intersections b4 I have to shift (35mph @ 6000rpm). Much nicer. I have a 43t Supersprox.
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We should take two to the strip and race. My money is on the 43 tooth because
it has given the engine the chance to use the broad powerband.

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Strange comment by your dealer, Boogs, because there is less change when changing the sprocket than the natural change in chain length as it wears. After all, you are not going to move the wheel back any more than the space Kawasaki provided for chain adjustments. Sure, it's a few mm further back than it was with the OE sprocket, but you'd go through that same spot as your chain wears even without changing the sprocket.

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...Does anyone who has done this mod notice any marked handling changes ?
I geared mine up with a 16 T front sprocket. I have only ridden it for a short in-town ride so far, but I noticed four things on that ride:

1) The gears are now spaced farther apart, so when I want to ride briskly, my timing is off just a bit on shifting and clutching in the middle gears. I suppose with more miles I will likely adapt. We'll see.
2) It provides for a smoother, calmer, more sedate type of ride.
3) I kinda miss the "Formula 1" racy feel of the stock gearing.
4) I need to retrain myself to really believe the speedometer now, otherwise speeding tickets are likely in the "speedtraps".
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Well, after those replies, thinking i might grab the 44T.

Not worried about dropping revs @ highway speeds, as most of my riding is town with weekend blatts chasing and the 1000cc bikes on country runs, speed limit is 110 kph. And now think I'm addicted to the track as well...

Gustavo, what you say sounds so obvious, big cheers.
ps, luv ur posts btw, always a good read though suspension still puzzles me, always adjusting

Element, get ur bike over here for a race think i might be the only 1 in West Aus with a V

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trialsguy--3) I kinda miss the "Formula 1" racy feel of the stock gearing.
And trialsguy, I really dont want to lose that , so 44T sound like the ticket.

Many thanks all, just wish that there were more V owners downunder
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g'day texrider,
From what I can gather, pple seem to think there is no discernible loss of power with 43T ?
Do you feel that 1st gear is longer/long enough with 44T ?
Some traffic lights I would definitely like a longer 1st.
Squirts through intersections nicely on the 44, in first gear. Motivates well in the meat of the power band, in all ranges.

The roll-on from 75mph in top gear is impressive, too. Cheers!
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Cheers Tex
Just got back from the dealer, bloody hell, they don't sell a 44T!!!
So now the big lookaround begins.....
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Cheers Tex
Just got back from the dealer, bloody hell, they don't sell a 44T!!!
So now the big lookaround begins.....
Get a 43T sprocket from a ZX6R. They will sell those.
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Cheers Tex
Just got back from the dealer, bloody hell, they don't sell a 44T!!!
So now the big lookaround begins.....
I used the Vortex 452A-44 alloy. Has the bright surface, and runs quiet.
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xoom--sounds like the 44T is the go for me, plenty of 43T @ the dealer......

And Tex, i'm out n about trying to find Vortex 452A-44
might have to end up ordering from the U.S...
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