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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 07-01-2009, 05:47 PM Thread Starter
 
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Is it supposed to stall when I put in in gear?

Might just be coincidence but the wife doesn't think so.

Never stalled on me before when putting in gear, and the clutch had lots of slack, so I take the slack out, put in clutch, and start it up, put it in gear, and with the clutch still in it stalls.

I mess with the clutch adjustments a bit, start it, put in gear, and with the clutch still in, it stalls.

After a couple times, the wife says "maybe it has some special switch and you have to be sitting on it or it stalls when you put it in gear."

I think this is BS, but I sit on it, start it up, put it in gear, and it stays running, not even a slight dip in rpms. Do this a couple more times, runs fine.

So, does this thing have some safety switch that won't let me put it in gear without sitting on the seat?
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It's the kick stand safety switch. The engine will not run with the transmission in gear if the kickstand is down. Yes even if the the clutch lever is held in. I often turn off my V by simply putting down the kickstand. There is a way to disable the safety switch if you are interested in doing that.


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COOL!!!

Damned good idea. Would only be better if it was me sitting on it that made it kick off.

But still a GREAT idea.

I am going to go out and find that switch and see how it is hooked up.

It sounds like a clutch is kicking in...

Or is it just cut off electrical?
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Well, went out and looked at it (and played with it, I can't leave nothin' alone). It appears to be an electrical cutoff switch.

Anyone ever have the kickstand come down on a big bump or jump and kill the bike?
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You should have asked MOM or like we tech geeks say RTM.
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What is MOM and, and I assume RTM is "Read The Manual". I didn't see it in the manual, just how to adjust it. I also didn't read the entire thing. Not my bike, it is my dads. I just do the mods and maintenance on it.

Is that a Puerto Rico flag? I have very fond memories of PR...
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Boricua,

That should be RTFM!

scooper77515,

Do a search, there was quite a discussion on this about a year ago. Many expressed an intention to bypass the switch. If you decide to do so, you might want to make sure it is reversable, so that you can put it back to stock before a, taking it to a dealer for service, or b, selling the bike...it is considered a safety device by the manufacturer.

I don't recall anyone reporting a failure of the kickstand spring that holds it up, but now that I've said it, I'm sure someone will come forward.

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It is a normally open or normally closed circuit. Check the switch with a meter to see which it is.

Piece of cake...
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Naw, I don't plan on bypassing it, I just wanted to mess with it.

You know, test it out a couple times. See how far you have to kick it down before it kills the engine, that kinda thing.

As for RTFM...i looked through it and I still see nothing about this safety switch. I see adjustment, and stating how to put the kickstand down after stopping, but nothing about the kill switch.

I guess if I read it cover to cover I would find it, but like I said, this is dad's bike, I am just the mechanic. FREE mechanic...
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Did I mention that I got a free 96 Seadoo XP? Fixed it up, got it running, and dad confiscated it and keeps it at his house by the beach.

He runs the crap out of it jumping waves off the beach. Then it breaks.

Guess who he calls and who gets to pay to fix it...
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I wouldn't disable it.
On a KLR or XR I can maybe see it being a good idea for rough trail riding.

For the street its a good safety feature with no real downside except occaisional gas-station embarrassment.

I've read at least one traffic report where a new rider (harley obviously) took off with the stand down, pulled into the street, started to make a left turn till the kickstand caught and caused him to slide into an oncoming car.
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What is MOM and, and I assume RTM is "Read The Manual". I didn't see it in the manual, just how to adjust it. I also didn't read the entire thing. Not my bike, it is my dads. I just do the mods and maintenance on it.

Is that a Puerto Rico flag? I have very fond memories of PR...

Motorcycle Owners Manual (MOM). Everytime you need to find out something about your ride just ask MOM.

Yes it is a PR flag. I was born and raised there. It's my little ethnical pride thing. If you ever ride in CO and see a red V with a PR flag on front that's most likely me.
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Boricua,

That should be RTFM!
I only use RTFM on repeat offenders.
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I still never found anything in that little manual about the kill switch on the kickstand.

So I went the ATF route...Ask The Forum
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I always liked Honda's rubber tip on their sidestands. If you left the stand down, it would flip the stand up as soon as it touched. It was a lot simpler, and there was nothing to break.

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For those that do not believe MOM have the answer. PP 167 TroubleShooting Guide column 2 second paragraph.

Engine Stalls
Just when shifting intp 1st gear
Side stand has been left down

MOM knowns.
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Ok, you "almost" got me there, but it still mentions nothing about a kill switch.

I would have expected something in the "how to start" section that bragged about this cool feature.

Of course, this little manual is pretty sparse. I guess there isn't room in this little "handbook" for all the cool features on these bikes.
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owners manual page67

my owners manual mentions the switch under the how to ride the motorcycle section
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Scooper if you want to get deep off into the workings of the 'V' get the service manual. There was a thread on here with a link where you can get the PDF free. I use it, it's great and it will keep you from getting pissed at your MOM.
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