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Crappy seat ... Or is it ?

Ok, here's my beef

I've only ridden two bike, a klr and the v

For me, both seat are less then perfect BUT
I was womdering how the V seat fare against a crotch rocket seat, or a HD seat or ... Well you get where i'm going

So, for those who have had other bike experience, what's your take on this ?


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The problem with the stock seat is that it slopes down towards the tank.

Then as you ride and slide toward the tank, you smash your junk!

I have a thread on how to fix this problem on the stock seat, without taking it apart!

Once I fixed the slope put an Air Hawk on and WOW comfortable all day!





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It's uncomfortable. I've found most stock seats on the bikes I've owned to be uncomfortable. I've replaced stock with Sargent not only on my V, but previously owned bikes: '95 Ducati 900 SS SP (stock was like sitting on a split rail fence), VFR, CBR929. If my gsxr600 saw street use, it would be replaced as well. Haven't had a bike yet with a comfortable stock seat. My old '92 FZR600 wasn't bad, but I was younger then and not aware of aftermarket options, if there even were any back then for that bike.
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My ST1100 had a Corbin and then a Saddlemen after market seat. both were good for me.
I have no big probs with the Versys stock seat for my short... around town stuff. For my longer stuff I use an Airhawk Pad. Works just fine for me.

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I've done 800 mile days with the stock seat with no problem but after the experience of once riding my mountain bike seat about 60 miles with an overpacked backpack any moto seat would be good!

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The problem with the stock seat is that it slopes down towards the tank.

Then as you ride and slide toward the tank, you smash your junk!

I have a thread on how to fix this problem on the stock seat, without taking it apart!

Once I fixed the slope put an Air Hawk on and WOW comfortable all day!
Adjusted BOTH my Vs to bring the front up 9/16", so NO slope now. On my '08 I have a "Spencer Mod", while the '09 is stock, and I find the seats QUITE comfortable. NO problems on my recent 'northern experience' over 7,508 kms on the '09, tho' I DID have a sheepskin over it (bought at IKEA, then modded), but I can't say whether it helped or not. At least it didn't make the seat worse....
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The V seat isn't the worst (the one on my ninja 500 was terribad), but it's not perfect. It really took some getting used to when I first got the bike. I have the luxury of being tall, so I can scoot all the way back against the passenger hump and not slide forward, but it does take some effort to do so. I've got a Seat Concepts seat sitting next to me now, going to the upholsterer's today. We'll see how much of a difference it makes compared to stock.
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Adjusted BOTH my Vs to bring the front up 9/16", so NO slope now. On my '08 I have a "Spencer Mod", while the '09 is stock, and I find the seats QUITE comfortable. NO problems on my recent 'northern experience' over 7,508 kms on the '09, tho' I DID have a sheepskin over it (bought at IKEA, then modded), but I can't say whether it helped or not. At least it didn't make the seat worse....
Ah, great minds....Ed. I did the same Ikea sheepskin thing. I place it so it runs up the gas tank about a foot. Takes away the forward slope and makes a significant difference for me.
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The problem with the stock seat is that it slopes down towards the tank.

Then as you ride and slide toward the tank, you smash your junk!

I have a thread on how to fix this problem on the stock seat, without taking it apart!

Once I fixed the slope put an Air Hawk on and WOW comfortable all day!
Do you have the link to the fix? I would like to check it out.
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My Air Hawk is on order.....enough said.
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Air Hawk solves all the seat's issues. Mine never comes off.
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The problem with the stock seat is that it slopes down towards the tank.

Then as you ride and slide toward the tank, you smash your junk!

I have a thread on how to fix this problem on the stock seat, without taking it apart!

Once I fixed the slope put an Air Hawk on and WOW comfortable all day!
Can you find the link to your seat fix please, I looked & failed.............
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I raised the stock seat 1/4 inch, not enough, still sliding forward into the tank. Survived a 1,500 mile trip through S. Wisconsin recently. The seat is not baaaaad, but I think that it should be a bit better.

Picked up my Concepts seat and had one two hour ride on it. Time to get off. I hoping that it needs a break-in period like a corbin does. Either to conform the seat to my bottom, or to conform my bottom to the seat. I do not slide to the tank on the Concept seat. Hoping to put on 600 miles this Weekend and get the something broken in. Riding West to Fort Francis, Ont, across the backroads to Dryden and return to Thunder Bay. Alzheimers Ride for Memories.

Note: My heavy duty hand stapler would not drive the staples into the plastic seat base. So I paid an upholsterer $30 to put it on, the other option was $135 for an air stapler. Could not find a cheaper one in town at the time.

I put a Russel seat on my Kaw Voyageur, it was great. Sargent on my KLR 650, at bit of an improvement.
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I hated the seats on both my KLR and Versys. I bought a Sargents for the KLR and a Seat Concepts kit for the Versys. I found I like the Seat Concepts better as I got a +1 firmness foam. At $170.00 it's a cheap upgrade to make your bike a better ride. After all the best bike in the world is going to sit in the garage is it is a PITA to ride!

PS I wasn't wild about the saddle on my Buell either as I found it way to soft. The best factory saddle was on my old Honda CX-650 Silverwing about 35 years ago. BUT was it a ugly seat!

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Do you have the link to the fix? I would like to check it out.
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Can you find the link to your seat fix please, I looked & failed.............
http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ad.php?t=19731

Post #16 has a photo showing how I stuffed the foam in the front hole! I put a bunch in there and it worked great!

http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ad.php?t=19660

Ok go to the fist thread with the photos!

Then read the second thread! It works great just be careful pushing the foam in so you don't poke through the seat. It works great almost no cost!





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I'm 6'4 255lbs. sliding forward is my big problem. I think the stock seat would be OK for me if it weren't for that problem.

Does the Corbin, Sargent or Seat concepts eliminate the forward sliding?

One more thing, how exactly do you guys raise your seats?
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I'm 6'4 255lbs. sliding forward is my big problem. I think the stock seat would be OK for me if it weren't for that problem.

Does the Corbin, Sargent or Seat concepts eliminate the forward sliding?

One more thing, how exactly do you guys raise your seats?
The Seat Concepts stops the slide. It's also wider and has a longer seating area I think so you have a bit more wiggle room. Plus you can get it with firmer foam. Too soft a saddle may feel cushy in the showroom BUT after about 1/2 an hour I get a bad case of the Butt Burn and can't get comfortable no matter what. A firm saddle offers better support and a longer comfort time before I need a break...like about 2-3 hours and by then my bladder is wanting a "Rest"

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http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ad.php?t=19731

Post #16 has a photo showing how I stuffed the foam in the front hole! I put a bunch in there and it worked great!

http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ad.php?t=19660

Ok got to the fist thread with the photos!

Then read the second thread! It works great just be careful pushing the foam in so you don't poke through the seat. It works great almost no cost!
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Stock seat has been pretty comfy for me. I'm 6'1, 215 pounds and I can ride all day long multiple days with it. I find if I sit too upright I slide forward, but angled slightly forward then I don't.

Lovin every minute of it!
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Stock seat has been pretty comfy for me. I'm 6'1, 215 pounds and I can ride all day long multiple days with it. I find if I sit too upright I slide forward, but angled slightly forward then I don't.


I have found for me, If I spend enough time on the seats in photo A the seat in photo B can't bother me.
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