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maybe returning to the fold...

Hi all - I was a member of the forum a couple of years ago when I had a 2008 model that I bought from another member.

I left that bike for a BMW, and a while later, sold the BMW, moved to DC, and now I'm presently riding a Tiger 1050.

And I'm thinking about maaaaaaybe coming back to the Versys fold.

Question: Did Kawi change anything between 2010 and the 2013 models besides the cosmetics? Was there any improvement to the motor, the mounts, dampening or anything else? Been trying to find that information and I'm failing.

Figured I'd say hi, too!
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Short answer is Not Much.
In 2010 the rear engine mounts incorporated rubber to help with some of the vibes. Mirrors were updated to ones with less jiggle. Other than that... and the cosmetics you mentioned it's the same bike as far as I understand.

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Interesting. Did the rubber mount changes make a difference?
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Question: Did Kawi change anything between 2010 and the 2013 models...
No, it's still awesome.

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No, it's still awesome.
Heh. I bet. : - )

What I meant to ask - when they improved the rubber mounting in 2010, did it make a significant difference from the '08 and '09 models?

That's what I'm trying to figure out.
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No clue from me... I've only ridden my 2011.

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Hello Killbilly!

I have a 2010 and as far as know 2010-2013 are all the same.

Did the rubber motor mounts, foot pegs, new mirrors help? I think so! Well the vibe isn't bad and I love my bike! Never tried an 06?-09 models.

Sorry I couldn't be more help.

Oh I did put vacuum hose on the round part of the display up and down and it removed that vibe. Now bike is very smooth.





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Welcome back!! You know what your getting since you had one before!!
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Killbilly, probably a few of us (more than me) are curious as to why you are considering returning, so I guess I'll be the one to ask what particular factors are bringing you back?

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How you liking that Tiger1050?


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The versys is a strange bike as its the master at nothing apart from the fun factor, it is my preferred bike over my Ninja 1000 for extended trips, twisty roads and just for comfort and now my wife wants to use it so not allowed to upgrade the 650 for the 1000cc version. Wifey does not like riding the Ninja as she gets whiplash lol.
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The versys is a strange bike as its the master at nothing apart from the fun factor, it is my preferred bike over my Ninja 1000 for extended trips, twisty roads and just for comfort and now my wife wants to use it so not allowed to upgrade the 650 for the 1000cc version. Wifey does not like riding the Ninja as she gets whiplash lol.
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Killbilly,

Rode both versions. No much difference in vibs. Both super fun...

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I had a guy come up to me on an '09 asking me whether or not I had the 5000 rpm vibes that is "fairly bad" on his bike. I have an '11 and although only about 1200kms into it, I haven't experienced any vibes at all. To be honest, I'm not sure what all the talk about the vibes is all about....although, perhaps that's a telling sign for the '10+ models...it's not that much or any (for me) of a problem.

Fun factor though...off the chart!
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I'm also very curious to know how the 1050 compares to the Versys. If the wife hadn't said no to the price of the 1050, it's the bike I would have just bought instead of the Versys (until I discovered how much fun it is!). What's made you want to go back to the Versys?
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It's something I'm only thinking about right now.

Honestly? I overestimated my needs when I bought it. The Tiger 1050 is a LOT of motorcycle, with gobs of power that I haven't the skill, roads or inclination to really use. Yes, it's sometimes nice to whack the Loud Handle and feel like I've been shot out of a cannon. Yes, the torque curve on the triple is quite impressive.

And I've never really explored most of the tach. Haven't needed to. I bought it because it's...awesome. But I've since realized that that kind of awesome isn't really what I need.

All of it comes at a cost. Where I live, even with a clean record, the insurance is really high - I live in the heart of DC. Parts are very expensive and dealer support is limited. It's a big, heavy bike that gets only reasonable mileage for its size. And Triumph has stopped making them in the US (the Tiger Sport is selling well in Europe) which has killed the resale value on them.

Finally, I've got a bike loan on it, and although the money was cheap to buy, we've got some upcoming changes coming at home that will change our financial picture and as such, a bike loan/high insurance premium isn't practical. I broke my own rule about financing depreciating assets. And Triumph, dammit - great motorcycles but the resale is often crap. I'm gonna take a hit on it no matter what I do.

I liked my '08 Versys, I just had to (at the time) feed some BMW lust and buy an R1100S which I since sold before moving to DC. Got that out of my system. Talk about expensive maintenance!

The main thing that bugged me about the V was the 5K vibration. I've since learned how I can tune that out (had to do it with the Triumph) and mod/farkle for reasonable costs.

I like the looks of the Gen 2 bikes, and I can get one for half of what I can sell the Triumph for right now, make some basic mods to it and still own a reliable, fun do-everything bike free and clear.

So that's basically it - The 1050 is beautiful and powerful and fast...

...and expensive. And heavy. And more than I need.

Anyone in the market for one?

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Thanks for taking the time to really lay out your thoughts on both bikes!

Hope you are able to sell your bike and get a V without a loan!





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Excellent, well thought out and well expressed explanation.
I lived in the D.C. area back in the pre-interstate days... When they had trolley cars in Georgetown. I still have a sister in Arlington so I do have some idea of the expense and hectic life up there.
The Versys will certainly better fit your needs. Good luck in landing a great deal!

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Anyone in the market for one?
I was until you gave it such a bad write-up....

Expensive I don't need!!

Heavy I don't want!

Triumph I do want! (coz I'm a Brit)

You could tempt me for my Black on Black 2012 with many extras,
but somehow I don't think the price difference from a bike that holds it's value
to a rapidly depretiating & no-longer-available bike is going to work for us both!
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