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Horns, HORNS, and more horns....

I had a Stebel Nautilus horn on my KLR, which I removed pre-sale, then installed onto my '09, as well as the Harbor-Freight "clone" - the WOLO Bad Boy - which is on my '08.

REALLY loved the way 'things' (animals, as well as cages...) scatter at a BLAST from one of those two.

Well, the Stebel has decided to go "south" since I returned from Dawson , so yesterday I removed it, fabbed up a mount for the OEM horn which I've now installed under the left fairing where the Stebel USED to live. Used the same wiring from the Nautilus too , which means that the OEM horn now goes thru a relay, so it's getting a FULL 12V pop when I hit the button!

NOW it actually makes NOISE, so for those of you who want more horn, but don't want to get a Nautilus - suggest you install a relay to power the stocker...!

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I wonder if the extra juice will shorten the stockers life span. Sounds like a good idea though since the stock horn wouldn't cost much to replace even if it did die young.
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I put a pair of Fiamm horns and a relay on my TDM850. They are a high and low tone, and sound exactly like a car. Quite loud. You need a high and low if you want it to sound like a car. Haven't done anything for the Versys.

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I had a Stebel Nautilus horn on my KLR, which I removed pre-sale, then installed onto my '09, as well as the Harbor-Freight "clone" - the WOLO Bad Boy - which is on my '08.

REALLY loved the way 'things' (animals, as well as cages...) scatter at a BLAST from one of those two.

Well, the Stebel has decided to go "south" since I returned from Dawson , so yesterday I removed it, fabbed up a mount for the OEM horn which I've now installed under the left fairing where the Stebel USED to live. Used the same wiring from the Nautilus too , which means that the OEM horn now goes thru a relay, so it's getting a FULL 12V pop when I hit the button!

NOW it actually makes NOISE, so for those of you who want more horn, but don't want to get a Nautilus - suggest you install a relay to power the stocker...!


so...for those electrical type experts hanging around,
just WHY does adding a relay make the horn so much louder?

and then, what would adding a relay to the Fiaam Horns do?

hey eddie, you did shoot a couple of squirts or WD-40 down the horn
before install, right?.......maybe this allowed the sound to slide out
way faster, therefore, it allowed the maximum amount of sound to get
out faster and it seemed louder because less sound was lost
in the transition from an electrical pulse to an audible tone
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Horns are fairly high current devices. Using a relay allows a better connection with possibly thicker wire, not routed through the handlebar switch. I never actually added a relay to a stock horn, nor did I compare my Fiamms with and without a relay. It is a conventional wisdom kind of thing to add a relay when you want the best current flow, or you are changing something to a higher current draw than stock.

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...hey eddie, you did shoot a couple of squirts or WD-40 down the horn before install, right?.......maybe this allowed the sound to slide out way faster, therefore, it allowed the maximum amount of sound to get out faster and it seemed louder because less sound was lost in the transition from an electrical pulse to an audible tone
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I will admit that it's so long since I had heard the stock horn that I MAY be wrong that it's now louder, but I don't think so...!

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As another alternative, you can mount this one without a relay in place of the OEM one, using the existing horn wire connectors. It's a five minute job for those who don't want to dork around with relays or rewiring: http://www.amazon.com/PIAA-76501-500Hz-Slim-Sports/dp/B003884RDW/ref=pd_sbs_auto_42 . It's plenty loud but doesn't sound like a big-rig.

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There are two main reasons for adding a relay to a new motorcycle horn. First is because the stock wiring including the handlebar button is exceedingly wimpy and can burn out (really) very easily. The other reason is that those wimpy wires can't pass the current sufficiently. I just installed a Wolo Bad boy last night and it took me at least an hour. Remove windscreen, remove upper fairing parts including the radiator shrouds, remove the old horn, cut the horn wire cable holders (two of them) so the wire can be routed up ahead of the gas tank (behind headlight) where I decided to zap strap the relay. Follow the electrical directions that come with the horn / relay. Both horn wires get plugged into the relay, a new 16ga wire with a 20a fuse from the battery to the relay (tucked behind the frame and zap strapped under the gas tank) and then another new 16ga wire from the relay to the horn - mounted where others have installed theirs under the tank on the right side beside the cylinders. There is already a small bracket there but I added an extension piece of metal about 1 inch long with two holes. Made mounting extremely easy. Then another 16ga wire from the horn to a ground location. Tidy up all the wires and you're done. The horn is loud and tucked out of the way. Just itching to use it! Dave
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