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Oil Change for under $10

Just changed the oil on the Versys. Went to Wally World and it cost me just under $10. Didn't go with Synthetic since the V is Liquid cooled and it helps keep the temperature of the engine under control. 2 Quarts of 10W-40 and a Purolator 14612. Runs like a top.



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You need almost 3 quarts for an oil change. I suspect your oil level is very low if you ony put in two.

My Hi Flo filter alone cost me $13 at the local dealer. $10/quart for Castrol 10W-40 synthetic motorcycle oil at Advance Auto. Guess I should start shopping elsewhere for my filters. Change my oil annually at about 10-12K km. I find I get a more difficult to shift, shift lever, with 5W-40 car oil.

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Mine took 2 quarts on the dot and measures up fine. Sticker next to the Oil Window says 1.7 quarts without changing the filter and 1.9 quarts with replacing it. My oil window is right where it should be at the mid mark. I bought a third Quart just in case but didn't need any of it. I'll just save it for next time. I change my oil every 3,000 miles.

Filter was $3.50 at Wally World. Oil was $2.89 a pop.

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Edmunds.com - The 3000 mile oil myth

I'm using Mobile 1 but only doing it around 6000 miles.

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Mine took 2 quarts on the dot and measures up fine. Sticker next to the Oil Window says 1.7 quarts without changing the filter and 1.9 quarts with replacing it. My oil window is right where it should be at the mid mark. I bought a third Quart just in case but didn't need any of it. I'll just save it for next time. I change my oil every 3,000 miles.

Filter was $3.50 at Wally World. Oil was $2.89 a pop.

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I spend 23.50 once a year on an oil change regardless of mileage and all road conditions using the purelator filter and 10W40 syc mc oil. I just had the top end opened up doing a valve check and it was clean as a pin. These little engines are rock solid.

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I use that filter but stick with Yamalube. Never had a problem with it.
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Why would you use cheap automobile oil that is not fortified for motorcycle engine with integrated transmission, and which is not wet clutch compatible? Not a smart move, and certainly nothing to brag about. Dump that substandard oil out ASAP. Spend a few more bucks on good oil. It only takes a little over 2 quarts, for crying out loud!

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You need almost 3 quarts for an oil change. I suspect your oil level is very low if you ony put in two.

My Hi Flo filter alone cost me $13 at the local dealer. $10/quart for Castrol 10W-40 synthetic motorcycle oil at Advance Auto. Guess I should start shopping elsewhere for my filters. Change my oil annually at about 10-12K km. I find I get a more difficult to shift, shift lever, with 5W-40 car oil.
I hope you didn't put in close to 3 quarts, as you would be severely overfull. You do know that your Versys should be standing balanced straight up vertical, and not on the sidestand when checking oil level?! When well drained, it takes barely over 2 quarts to refill.
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Why would you use cheap automobile oil that is not fortified for motorcycle engine with integrated transmission, and which is not wet clutch compatible? Not a smart move, and certainly nothing to brag about. Dump that substandard oil out ASAP. Spend a few more bucks on good oil. It only takes a little over 2 quarts, for crying out loud!
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That oil for a car is not bad, but it is the cheapest you can get. Like Invader mentioned, why save a few dollars on substandard oil. That oil is NOT rated for motorcycle wet-clutch use. Even two quarts of the "best" stuff like Mobil 1 4T 10W-40 or Amsoil 10W-40 would still only be an extra $10.

I do use Purolator filters, although I prefer the Pure One brand (I've also used the Bosch Distance Plus). Those bigger filters allow me to use almost 2.5 quarts and be perfect on the fill lines, bike upright. Anything much more than 2.25 quarts with a standard small motorcycle filter is too much though, unless you really sit there and rock the bike back and forth to get out extra oil. (Not that I do that or anything... )

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I hope you didn't put in close to 3 quarts, as you would be severely overfull. You do know that your Versys should be standing balanced straight up vertical, and not on the sidestand when checking oil level?! When well drained, it takes barely over 2 quarts to refill.
According to the service manual the Versys takes 2.5 quarts or 2.4 litres which is about what I used. 2 quarts though will not bring the oil level up to the lower mark on the sight glass unless old oil was left in the engine.
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I get my filters from Kawasaki and oil from Amsoil, I got a great deal on a case from a friend. About $30.00 once a year or so. Cheap next to a new motor if you ask me. Why be Penny wise and Pound foolish?

My KLR gets the same treatment after all I ride it most of the time. 2009 with 30,000 miles and no motor troubles at all.

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According to the service manual the Versys takes 2.5 quarts or 2.4 litres which is about what I used. 2 quarts though will not bring the oil level up to the lower mark on the sight glass unless old oil was left in the engine.
Are you using a larger oil filter? Is the rear up on a stand when you check oil level? As well drained as it may be, you'd be overfull with 2.5 quarts.
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You get what you pay for with oils. We get cheap oil in New Zealand but it is made to a 20 year old additve formula, if that. For the sake in an extra few dollars spread over 5000 kms its nothing. It just means one less meal at McDonalds. Senseless servicing with cheap oil. What is the part number for the large oil filter please. A bit of extra oil capacity does no harm.
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What is the part number for the large oil filter please. A bit of extra oil capacity does no harm.
Good info here on oil filters for the Versys (5) and others.

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterXRef.html
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These are my two that I go to, probably some of the highest quality filters you can buy:

Purolator PL14610 PureONE Oil Filter
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E8V9RG/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Bosch D3323 Distance Plus High Performance Oil Filter
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0034HNMQK/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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According to the service manual the Versys takes 2.5 quarts or 2.4 litres which is about what I used. 2 quarts though will not bring the oil level up to the lower mark on the sight glass unless old oil was left in the engine.
2.4L is completely dry.. aka you dissasembled the engine. 1.9L with a filter change.

As to OP.. if you want a wallyworld change, dump the supertech and get rotella t6.. $20ish per gallon.. jaso ma.

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That won't be such a cheap oil change if you have to replace the clutch because it starts slipping because you used car oil.

BTW, I changed my oil today too, and it took 2.3 quarts to fill it to the middle of the two lines after being thoroughly drained with the bike vertical on the stand. That makes sense, considering 2.4 for a dry engine. I put in the 1.9 the manual recommends for a change with filter and the level wasn't high enough.

This is my 8th oil change with the bike and it has always been the same: takes about 2.3 quarts.

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Oil level shows lower in the sight glass if only the rear end is up on a stand.
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I know it's always "OIL WARS" around here, but really...synthetic motorcycle-specific oil is not much more than crap oil, and shifting is NOTICEABLY smoother. Of course if you ride it like a lawn mower, have at it.

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Shell Rotella T6 synthetic 5W-40 is JASO MA rated. Great oil for the price:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Shell-Rote...1-Gal/14958681


Beside Purolator PL14610, here are other listings for a longer oil filter, including Bosch 3323:

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,ca...,parttype,5340

Standard size is Bosch 3300, Purolator PL14612, etc. Here are more standard size oil filter listings:

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,ca...,parttype,5340

Stick with Bosch, Purolator, or other higher quality filters.
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