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Question Sidestand/kickstand issue.......help!

I bought my Versys last Thursday, & already it's toppled off it's sidestand!!!
(luckily minimal damage as those Givi/Kawasaki panniers are pretty tough)

History; it's a 2012 model with 9k mls on the clock & was owned by a 300lb
6ft 2' guy!

I don't know if he stood on the pegs to mount it or not, but the sidestand
movement seems excessive to me, even after I tightened the nuts as far
as possible.

As well as the actual lever movement, the spring doesn't seem to "flick" it forward when I'm putting it down as positively as on other 'bikes I've owned.

Hopefully I'm allowed to put this link to my Youtube download to show you
guys the movement in the stand, & hopefully someone has had a similar
problem & found a solution.

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Mine has about the same if not more movement then the one in the video.
Thought it was normal

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Ill have to check mine out tonight to see how different it is.. I thought all of them had some sort of flex, but maybe not.

In terms of the "springyness" that happens to me after enough gunk gets in the pivot points, I just spray some wd40 to loosen it up.

Can you give more information of how it "fell"?

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2009 V and my kickstand always shifts about 3/8 to 1/2 inch when I remove myself from the bike. I expect it now, so no problem. And, this morning I kicked it up, but it only went up part way and then down again - net result bike would not start in 1st gear.

Most of the time I will bring it down all the way with my boot, and double check to ensure it is all the way down. And it bike will always make the stand shift when I rest it on the stand. I think they all do this.

To be safe, always double check it is UP, and always double check it is down and all the way towards the front of the bike. This avoids any ill gotten drops.

Enjoy your V, they are a fun bike.
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Did you park it in neutral?? My bike used to lean way over.When i first got the bike i had a messed up hip and had to stand on the peg to get on the bike. It had bent where the stand connects bent it back but over time it was leaning over again. later i installed Speedy Lowering Kit even though i'm 6'2" it made it easier to get my leg over. I didn't have to cut the stand once lowered the lean was gone.

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Mine has about the same if not more movement then the one in the video.
Thought it was normal
I believe this is some engineer's idea of a joke to make sure my heart gets an occasional jump start
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Great replies guys & thank-you all!!!

I suppose no one knows of a better kick stand on the market or they'd've
mentioned it.
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Some people have used the klr stand. It's slightly longer, the bike leans less.
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Some people have used the klr stand. It's slightly longer, the bike leans less.
That's funny because my last bike was a KLR & I actually fixed a block to the bottom of the stand so that it wouldn't lean over so much!!!

I know what you're saying though & it's a great idea because the KLR sits much taller than the Versys....
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I have a 2013 V and whenever I park the bike, I always kick it down then once off the bike, I pull the kick stand with my toes just to make sure that it is fully engaged. At times, the stand seems to buckle because it is not fully "open". Thankfully and luckily the bike has not fallen because of this, hopefully never will. Now I wonder if this is normal or not!
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I have a 2013 V and whenever I park the bike, I always kick it down then once off the bike, I pull the kick stand with my toes just to make sure that it is fully engaged. At times, the stand seems to buckle because it is not fully "open". Thankfully and luckily the bike has not fallen because of this, hopefully never will. Now I wonder if this is normal or not!
Yup, just like mine, but mine is 2009. Looks as if this is SOP.

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Whenever I park the bike, I always kick it down then once off the bike, I pull the kick stand with my toes just to make sure that it is fully engaged.
Mine fell over as I was dismounting using the "stand on the peg" method!!
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Mine wobbles as much too, but so far it hasn't dropped off on its own.

Occasionally i had thoughts of slipping in some 1mm washers in between, or even swapping to a klr side stand but as it is not in dire urgency, i will live with it. For now.

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A cure is as follows:
Put a 1 mm (approximately) washer directly under the head of the kickstand bolt. This shortens the bolt and makes it possible to lessen the gap a little bit in order to get a more snug fit around the stand.
Be careful here and use a washer of the right thickness. Too thick => stand will be stuck, too narrow => stand will still have too much play.

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Not exactly to the point of this thread, but thought I'd share this cautionary tale nonetheless. My brother's weestrom blew over one night in Newfoundland because he left it in neutral when he parked it. Exceptionally heavy winds, but my bike was fine next to his because I had left it in gear.
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Not exactly to the point of this thread, but thought I'd share this cautionary tale nonetheless. My brother's weestrom blew over one night in Newfoundland because he left it in neutral when he parked it. Exceptionally heavy winds, but my bike was fine next to his because I had left it in gear.
Good point though, Mt. I always park it in gear and lock the handlebars, but mainly due to my fear that someone will just roll it and take the bike.
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Not exactly to the point of this thread, but thought I'd share this cautionary tale nonetheless. My brother's weestrom blew over one night in Newfoundland.
So are you telling us all to steer clear of Newfoundland?...........

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I will start to leave mine in gear which I NEVER have done because "back in the day" a bike would start even of it was still in gear, so I guess it's inbred in me.............Memo; rearrange "Old dog...New tricks....CAN teach!!!"
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Your sidestand movement is the same as on my '08 and '09 Vs. Two days ago I had the '09 on the rear stand and went under to check the nut on the inside of the 'stand. I was able to tighten it, even tho' it's a lock-nut, so I removed the nut, cleaned it, then put RED Loctite on it, and re-tightened it.

On my KLR (which seemed the same system as on the V) I removed the bolt, drilled the head for a LOCK wire, then put it back in, threaded LOCK (NOT safety) wire thru the hole, and anchored it nearby.

Yesterday I bought a new lock-nut, which, IF I find the nut loose again, I will use to replace the one I Loctited, as well as drilling and lock-wiring the bolt head.

I ALWAYS park the bike IN GEAR, and if it's not in a garage on the rear stand, w/ the steering locked full left (I read that by locking the steering, IF it falls over for whatever reason, the damage will be much less!)

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I have a 2011 V. I thought I had the kickstand down all the way but when getting off the bike, the bike and I went over. My stupidity of course. The GIVI V45 and my leg took the brunt of the force but I still broke the end of the shift lever. I am more cautious getting off the bike and will look at the play on the kickstand.
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Too bad the stand didn't lock in place.
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