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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 03-29-2009, 10:12 AM Thread Starter
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a stop light question

just a question for you guys. do you have problems at stop lights and registering? it seems like when ever i come to a stop light it never lets me through. all the stop light around me are the "smart" type and this is very annoying.

basically are there any tips or tricks to getting the bike to register?

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I can't speak for this working personally, buy I regularly heard on another board (Triumph RAT) that a magnet on the bottom of a bike will help trigger the sensor.

You need a couple rare earth magnets stuck to the lowest practical point on the bike, like the oil pan. That's because the sensor is an inductive loop that detects vehicles based on their metal mass.

Another tip is to put your kickstand down, but remember to stay in neutral or you'll kill the engine.

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On the pavement below the traffic lights in my area are three painted yellow dots, about the size of tennis balls, perpendicular to the intersection, just in front of the white stop line. As long as I pull up on top of those the sensor will detect my bike's presence and trigger the signal change. Maybe there's something similar where you are.
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Here in Southern Oregon, we have cables inbeded in the pavement that sense metal objects over them, and then change the lights. They are diamond or circle shapped lines from the asphault tar sealer, over the groves that were cut into the street to place the cables in. There is an line running from them to the corner where it connects to the traffic lights.

The trick here is to stop directly over the lines and try to cover as much of a portion of the lines with the center of your bike as you can, while being in a safe lane position. If you stop in the middle of them they do not register the bike and you'll wait.

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I find that if I stop on top of the grooves or lines in the road (the wires in the road) that the light will change. It requires enough metal to disrupt the field and if you get your wheels right on top it will usually work. A lot of the newer ones use cameras and they seem to work most of the time.

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basically are there any tips or tricks to getting the bike to register?
yeah just run it...(obviously after stopping) not the best advice but sometimes that is all your left with, of course you have to be very careful if you resort to this, for safety and tickets... I guess I know how all the lights work where I drive the most and I know the few that don't register so I avoid them or go around them, if I'm making a left I will go straight and make a U turn or I never get through... most lights however are triggered through the ground and you can see where the sensors are because they're cut out so just make sure your are sitting on one of those and you will trigger the sensor... as for everything else make a right hand turn and flip a U or go straight and flip a U... this of course is also unsafe if your not careful but usually if you have to resort to it that means there is no traffic or a car would trigger the light for you... just be careful...

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I read a policeman's post on another motorcycle forum, stating that you treat a malfunctioning traffic signal like a stop sign.

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My '85 Honda CRX had a hard time tripping stop lights. Once I waited through three cycles for a left turn arrow and didn't get it. I treated the light "like a stop sign" and did not impress the trooper who I still say way lying in wait. I also did not impress the judge with my story, but he continued the case without a finding since I had a clean driving record.

I have one of those magnets on my ST. It works much of the time but it's not perfect. Most of the new or upgraded lights in my part of the world trip with video rather than magnetism and sometimes they don't see a bike either. Flashing the high beams seems to help.


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If you choose to "run" the light, I strongly recommend doing it at less than 10 mph if possible, otherwise you'll trigger the red light camera.

That is, if you're so lucky to live someplace where they have them.
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Out in California, you can refer to vehicle code 21800(d)(1) which refers to traffic control signals that are inoperative. When a motorized vehicle is not recognized by the signal it is considered "inoperative". The vehicle code then states that the said "unrecognized vehicle" should proceed with caution and when safe.
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WE have a similar problem over here in Blighty . It gets Quite tedious waiting and some of the local lads around here have come up with the solution..
These seem to trigger the sensors in next to no time .

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Check your local laws. Here we must wait a reasonable time then proceed with caution. I have done this in front of several LEO's. I refuse to die of old age waiting for a traffic light to change.

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There are two lights my bike never worked on and after I bought that large magnet to trigger lights, now there are only two lights my bike never triggers.
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I've tried magnets, stopping on the sensor cables, kick stand, blah blah blah. Nothing I do seems to work on some lights. The worst is on left turn lights, after a while I treat it like a stop sign, and proceed with caution. A lots of areas have written it into law that after 120 seconds, or some other arbitrary point you, can 'run' a red lights. I suppose that if I got pulled over I would let the officer know that the light was malfunctioning.

The worst is probably the red light cameras. Houston just voted to ban red light cameras, and the highway is under construction in my home town, so they've been taken down most places. Theres still a couple lingering though. I think it should be against the law to have a sensor controlled light and have it have a red light camera, that seems like an opportunity for dishonesty on the part of the companies that actually own and get commission from light cameras. Though I haven't been caught by one before.

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Here (in Atlanta) I have found that most of the sensors will detect you if you stop on the sensor. If there are three I always stop on the middle one, as the outside sensors don't always seem to detect me. I suspect that all of this depends on how your municipality calibrates them.

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In my area there are two lights I've found where the left turn sensors don't pick me up. They are somewhat remote so I often use the kickstand method in combination with my boots....I get off, walk across on the green and push the walk button on the light standard. Very annoying either way.

In a cage if one approaches quickly and stops abruptly(within reason) the lights seem to change quickly. Doesn't seem to work on the bike though. Watching the "Stop walk" signal count down from 19 to 0 and then turn to "Walk" again is VERY annoying. It's the price one has to pay, I guess for riding in low/no traffic situations.

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I contacted the traffic department in my city, Boston Mass. The light at the end of my one way street wouldn't detect me. It took a year but they finally adjusted the sensitivity for me. (My hard earned tax money working for me).
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Stop over the sensor wires and rev the engine (the alternator output goes up and helps disrupt the magnetic field). Most cities allow you to run it after a reasonable wait.
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