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1st 600 mile service..

if u took your bike 2 the dealer how much $ did it put you out? & did the dealer put out?
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I'm not taking my bike to the dealer unless it's a warranty issue!
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I'm not taking my bike to the dealer unless it's a warranty issue!
Same here. And even if it's a warranty issue it better be returned repaired and in better condition than if I would have done the work myself(Scratches, Scuffs, Paint Chips). It may sound a little hypocritical but I've had problems in the past with other vehicles. The quality and experience of some mechanics doesn't meet my expectations at times and I don't have the time nor patients to pay someone to learn at my expense.
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... how much $ did it put you out? & did the dealer put out? ...
1. I don't pay for such things. 2. I'm not gay. 3. If I were gay, I could do better than him.
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My intitial service cost me $239 Australian. This is the first bike/car I have ever owned where they charged for the first service. All they really need to do is change the oil and filter. It was the same dealer who assembled the bike, so to charge me to check that everything is still tight etc. is gouging the customer in my view.

I'll be back to doing my own maintenance from here on.
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The 600 miles service cost me about $160 back in August. Oil change, filter, 24-point check, adjust chain, general inspection. My local dealer charges $65 per hour plus the parts and it is probably the last they see the bike.
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My intitial service cost me $239 Australian. This is the first bike/car I have ever owned where they charged for the first service. All they really need to do is change the oil and filter. It was the same dealer who assembled the bike, so to charge me to check that everything is still tight etc. is gouging the customer in my view.

I'll be back to doing my own maintenance from here on.
They are supposed to check the valves also, which would be the costliest part of the service. Whether or not they actually checked them is another question, because the valves should be in spec unless something is wrong, in which case the bike would likely display hard starting or other symptoms.

I did my own, including a valve check.
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Sweet Frankenbike...You do the paint?
Thanks. It isn't paint though... graphic decals instead, which is how all dirtbikes are done. I worked with a company (XGX) on the custom graphics though. I sent them a cartoon Frankenstein and then suggested changes. They sent back pencil graphics, and after one more such back and forth...voila!

The bike was a gift for my wife. There's no way I'd ever go to so much trouble for any bike I'd be riding and crashing.
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1. I don't pay for such things. 2. I'm not gay. 3. If I were gay, I could do better than him.
What does this have to do with anything, who cares?
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What does this have to do with anything, who cares?
It's called humor, or maybe "humour" up in your neck of the woods. He's playing on "put out" and attempting to deliver the message that he doesn't take his bike to the dealer (nor obtain other services of a more "biblical" nature from same). Get it?
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They are supposed to check the valves also, which would be the costliest part of the service. Whether or not they actually checked them is another question, because the valves should be in spec unless something is wrong, in which case the bike would likely display hard starting or other symptoms.

I did my own, including a valve check.
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No valve clearance inspection required until 15,000 miles.

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Here's what the dealer invoice charges me for.

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Changed engine oil and filter (The only thing that needed to be done)
Lubricated and/or adjusted controls and cables (After 1,000 easy Kms?)
Lubricated and/or adjusted drive chain (After 1,000 easy kms?)
Checked brake pads/shoe for wear and adjustment (Wear? And disc brakes don't have adjustment.)
Checked brake and/or clutch fluid (Five seconds to look at each level)
Checked tyre condition and pressure (Ten seconds each tyre)
Checked wheel, steering, or suspension bearings (They are only 1,000 easy kms old. And 'checked' means they tugged at the front wheel, sidways on the swing arm.)
Checked brake light switch (Five seconds)
Checked brake hose condition (Ten seconds each for three hoses)
Checked shock absorber & front forks for leaks and damage (After 1,000 easy kms? However, benefit of the doubt etc, five seconds each side)
Checked engine and transmission for oil leaks (Five seconds)
Checked coolant level (Five seconds)
Checked radiator hoses and connections (They checked these at new, 1,000 kms ago)
Tightened general nuts and bolts (This one I do not believe)
Performed general lubrication (There is not a grease nipple on the bike, and no such thing as 'general lubrication.' You either pull the steering head off to lube the bearings or you don't. Same with wheel bearings. They itemised the chain and the control cables, what else is there?)

Parts.
Filter - 12.60 (Justified spend)
Sump plug gasket - 1.80 (Justified spend)
Oil - 26.60 (For 1.9 litres, hope it's synth)
Cleaners/lubes/sealant - 11.00 (For a spray of white chain lube? A whole can sells for $12.00 at the spares counter)
Environmental waste levy - 11.00 (My previous mechanic welcomed my old home maintenance sump oil as he got paid for it by the recycling bloke who drained his tank each month)

Parts $63.00
Labour - $176.00 (When I took the bike in they said pick it up in two hours. that's $88 per hour.)
Total $239.00

Let's put this in perspective. The only thing that was necessary after 1,000 kms was to change the oil & filter. That adds up to $41.00 with sump plug gasket.

Fifteen minutes at their rate of $88 per hour is $22.00 (Ironically, my hourly rate.)

All up is $63.00.

An oil change can mostly be done while working on another bike, so it costs them almost nothing to say to the customer, 'We charge you for oil and filter, labour is free." That brings it back to $41.00

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I just bought a used 2008 Versys as my first motorcycle and I like it. I am not a mechanic but I walked through the MOM and checked what I could. On page 105 there's a diagram showing how to check the engine coolant level that I haven't made sense of. Which side of the bike is this on, how do I locate the engine coolant level gauge?
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You have to squat down in front of the bike, looking toward the headlight. Look at the right fork leg & follow it up inside the right cover. You'll see the coolant tank & gauge there. To check it properly, you need to have the bike level. It's easy to do, I just grab the right grip with my left hand & pull it level as I look at the gauge...



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Dude, I spent $20 to change my oil at the Walmart parking lot. I bought 2 quarts of Mobil 1 Motorcycle oil and a Fram oil fiiter, used my own tools which come with the bike under the seat, and paid two dollars for a plastic topper-ware to use as an oil pan and the whole job lasted about 20 minutes total. After I finished I put the old oil back in the 2 empty containers and asked the auto-shop next door to please dispose of the old oil, which they did for free. They also hooked me up with some free chain lube and I left the parking lot after 30 minutes of "easy does it."
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My 600 mile, 1st service cost me $69.99. I changed the oil and filter myself at 150 miles so I told them to skip that step. I've bought 4 motorcycles from them and they have been excellant in service, and accessory costs.

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So you paid them for nothing... The first service is basically an oil change...



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I did my first 600 miles service last Tuesday in my own garage. Cost me nothing!

I got 5,6 bosch and Pure one filters and left over unused motor oil (lots of quart) in my garage. Just drained the oil, replaced the filter, put in 2.5 quart of new oil, check my tire pressure, adjusted chains, lube, check coolant, check and make sure all the nuts and bolts are tight.

A free wash (Dry wash with Honda spray stuff).

Oh, Yeah... Last thing... Have a nice cool beer!

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