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I ran into an old friend (yes he is and so am I) who was ranting about the new bike he just bought. Turns out its a 2012 Versys. He has installed the Two Brothers exhaust and Juice Box. He says he's gonna go up a tooth on the front sprocket. He says the bike is extremely easy to mouse-trap as it is. I suspect this is exaggerated somewhat. My bone-stock 2009 will not lift the front wheel with throttle input only. Can someone who's done the same work let me know their experience?

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I ran into an old friend (yes he is and so am I) who was ranting about the new bike he just bought. Turns out its a 2012 Versys. He has installed the Two Brothers exhaust and Juice Box. He says he's gonna go up a tooth on the front sprocket. He says the bike is extremely easy to mouse-trap as it is. I suspect this is exaggerated somewhat. My bone-stock 2009 will not lift the front wheel with throttle input only. Can someone who's done the same work let me know their experience?
My stock 09 will lift the front tire about a foot in first with just the throttle. It'll lift slightly in second with the throttle'
What is "mousetrapping". I tried to google it but only came up with some references to pornos and computers.
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mouse-trapping is winding up on your back underneath your bike...rotate the bike/rider 180 degrees around the rear axle Something my 700+ lb GS was very capable of doing but its out of the question for my Versys!

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I'm not sure about mousetrapping but I can get the front wheel up a little too easily. I remember some videos of people doing that on Vs. I do my best to keep both wheels on the ground...but I am that "O" word.

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mouse-trapping is winding up on your back underneath your bike...rotate the bike/rider 180 degrees around the rear axle Something my 700+ lb GS was very capable of doing but its out of the question for my Versys!
I really think I could "mousetrap" the V if I really wanted to. It comes up pretty easy, I think if I just layed into the throttle and kept it there while pulling back on the bars or bouncing in first it would go over.
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Someone posted a u-tube video awhile back of a guy "mousetrapping" his V in a wheelie from stopped. Lotsa revs - dump the clutch - and OVER!

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If your V won't wheelie throttle only .Your V has A problem///oldman, V will with ease
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If your V won't wheelie throttle only .Your V has A problem///oldman, V will with ease
Perhaps it does. How about 3rd gear, will it wheelie from there throttle only? Mousetrap is something that sneaks up on you...totally unintentional.

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Tell your friend to go easy on the throttle and he'll be fine, lol

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My V650 does powerwheelies in 1st gear, even downhill, and rarely in 2nd gear: When shifting into 2nd, or going uphills.

Rider weight and suspension settings play a big role, so don't worry if yours doesn't.

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My stock 09 will lift the front tire about a foot in first with just the throttle. It'll lift slightly in second with the throttle'
What is "mousetrapping". I tried to google it but only came up with some references to pornos and computers.
As an IT Manager, I've not heard of mousetrapping as a computer term; but more importantly- I'm a little scared to find out what meaning this has in the world of porn. I'm gonna see how long I can hold out without googling it. Ignorance may well be bliss in this case.


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As an IT Manager, I've not heard of mousetrapping as a computer term; but more importantly- I'm a little scared to find out what meaning this has in the world of porn. I'm gonna see how long I can hold out without googling it. Ignorance may well be bliss in this case.
How lucky can you get -- it involves BOTH:

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To prevent yourself from "going over" on a wheelie - cover the rear brake with your right toe - if you feel your front wheel is too high, then depress your right toe onto the rear brake pedal. Your front wheel will then drop. When it gets down far enough, release the rear brake. Repeat.

Also, remember that your throttle works both ways, then you'll be fine.

My V will wheelie about a foot high with throttle only in 1st (not popping the clutch).

The V is not meant to be a drag racer. The center of gravity is too high. That's why its not advisable to rev it up and dump the clutch at a standing start.

To quote a fellow forum poster:
"If it weren't for physics or law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!"
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I was chasing a hot air balloon once, trying to get a picture. I had to stop at a hiway crossing... there was brief window to cross, then traffic backed up behind a semi. It was now or never; I hit the throttle on the V and... I saw sky. As I crossed the hiway and start up the opposing street, I thought, "This is different" followed quickly by "Don't do anything rash". I slowly let off the throttle, and the wheel came back down. I continued on, trying not to let on to any witnesses that I didn't mean to do that. I wonder what that looked like to the semi driver...
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I was chasing a hot air balloon once, trying to get a picture. I had to stop at a hiway crossing... there was brief window to cross, then traffic backed up behind a semi. It was now or never; I hit the throttle on the V and... I saw sky. As I crossed the hiway and start up the opposing street, I thought, "This is different" followed quickly by "Don't do anything rash". I slowly let off the throttle, and the wheel came back down. I continued on, trying not to let on to any witnesses that I didn't mean to do that. I wonder what that looked like to the semi driver...
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My 2008 will lift the front wheel, sometimes when I don't want it to, in first gear with stock engine and gearing and I'm 190lb
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Like a good Yacht Rocker, just keep it smooth and there won't be a problem.

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Mine pointed to the sky too once as I only meant to quickly merge onto the road from a dead stop... Front end will also start going up when I hit the power band as I'm accelerating in first gear at wide-open-throttle, and may have to back off or lean forward, with 15/45 sprockets and taller 150/70 TrailAttack (5% over stock gearing) and a few mods.
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I found the V's front comes up easily in 1st with only throttle

If you want to give it a little help, a quick blip/chop/twist will guarantee the front comes up as the suspension is rebounding off the chop
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As an IT Manager, I've not heard of mousetrapping as a computer term; but more importantly- I'm a little scared to find out what meaning this has in the world of porn. I'm gonna see how long I can hold out without googling it. Ignorance may well be bliss in this case.
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I can easily get the front up in first gear, accidently even.

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