2020 Touring tire( Milage) Info needed Please. - Kawasaki Versys Forum
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2020 Touring tire( Milage) Info needed Please.

O.K. so I am gonna take a long trip Ill not go on about it(Boring) . I searched thru archives and did not find any (Up to date )info on tire choice.lots of good reviews on the Road 5 but I guess what I am looking for is a good preforming milage tire. Ill be doing a lot of straight line asphalt pounding(center tread wear).My Kenny Roberts days are long behind me and I am not pushing lean angles anymore either.Just trying to sort thru all the options on performance and milage.I really do not want to have to buy another set of tires @ 3000 miles. Thoughts? Experiance with a good all around tire? thank you , Jerry.

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I have gotten over 8,000 miles on a rear Dunlop Roadsmart III in a mix of riding conditions. Now down to the wear bars in the middle. Will replace it next month. It is now squared off, but it has gotten bad only recently. Good traction in dry and wet conditions. I will probably buy another one.
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I have gotten over 8,000 miles on a rear Dunlop Roadsmart III in a mix of riding conditions. Now down to the wear bars in the middle. Will replace it next month. It is now squared off, but it has gotten bad only recently. Good traction in dry and wet conditions. I will probably buy another one.
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I got 10,008 miles from my rear, 11,545 from the front, OEM Dunlops; SHINKO Advance front = 8,555 miles; Dunlop ROADSMART rear = 11,152 miles; ContiMotion rear = 10,628 miles, front = 11,233 miles; METZLER Tourance rear 150/70 = 14,125 miles; TKC80 front knobby = 8,467 miles; KENDA BIG BLOCK rear knobby = 9,750 miles; METZLER Tourance front (a rear 130/80x17) = 28,799 miles (THAT is NOT a miss-print, and required the front fender to be RAISED!); METZLER Tourance rear = 12,337 miles; METZLER Tourance rear = 14,123 miles; and SHINKO E705 rear = 11,987 miles. '08 V650 w/ 91,xxx miles on it.

As you can see - I keep pretty complete records. Pretty happy using the SHINKO E705 tires for the last while....


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I got 10,008 miles from my rear, 11,545 from the front, OEM Dunlops; SHINKO Advance front = 8,555 miles; Dunlop ROADSMART rear = 11,152 miles; ContiMotion rear = 10,628 miles, front = 11,233 miles; METZLER Tourance rear 150/70 = 14,125 miles; TKC80 front knobby = 8,467 miles; KENDA BIG BLOCK rear knobby = 9,750 miles; METZLER Tourance front (a rear 130/80x17) = 28,799 miles (THAT is NOT a miss-print, and required the front fender to be RAISED!); METZLER Tourance rear = 12,337 miles; METZLER Tourance rear = 14,123 miles; and SHINKO E705 rear = 11,987 miles. '08 V650 w/ 91,xxx miles on it.

As you can see - I keep pretty complete records. Pretty happy using the SHINKO E705 tires for the last while....

Thank you Eddie, Just what I was looking for.I have been watching your posts on the shinkos,The price is great on them would you recomend that tire for a long trip?I am assuming you would but I had to ask LOL. are you also runing a shinko on the front?Great record keeping, I thenk you for that.

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I'm seeing 9-11 thousand miles out of a rear Road 5 and 12 thousand out of the front.

The Metzeler Roadtech I put on the front looks to be holding up better than the Road 5 did with similar miles, so I've ordered a Roadtech for the rear.

This is on a V1000, for your information. Expect longer life on a 650, but as always, YMMV.

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So one broad consideration is belted vs radial on pavement for a leaning vehicle. Good to investigate this concept. For instance, if you like twisties, go radial. If that doesnt matter to you then belted are cheaper in general and can carry alot of rubber, like a car or truck tire.
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So one broad consideration is belted vs radial on pavement for a leaning vehicle. Good to investigate this concept. For instance, if you like twisties, go radial. If that doesnt matter to you then belted are cheaper in general and can carry alot of rubber, like a car or truck tire.
Well, heck... If you only want to drive on a straight line, why not go for a radial car tire? Not like it's never been done. Lol.
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The best rear tires for wear for me have been the Pirelli Angel GT and Dunlap RS3 at about 6k miles. Bridgestone T-31 a little less with the 305 Shinko being the shortest, at about 3500 miles average.

My riding includes mostly spirited and/or high speed loaded down. For comparison, see Fasteddie's post.

I tend to keep the air pressure about 10% above recommendations.

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Well, heck... If you only want to drive on a straight line, why not go for a radial car tire? Not like it's never been done. Lol.
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I'm seeing 9-11 thousand miles out of a rear Road 5 and 12 thousand out of the front.

The Metzeler Roadtech I put on the front looks to be holding up better than the Road 5 did with similar miles, so I've ordered a Roadtech for the rear.

This is on a V1000, for your information. Expect longer life on a 650, but as always, YMMV.
Thay is impresive on a 1000
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Thay is impresive on a 1000
I wish I felt the same. I expect more, but I'm not finding it.

I hear Harley guys are getting 20-25k out of a rear. Dunlops, usually. But there's no comparable size for a V1000 in a Harley tire.

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I don't have experience with the Pilot Road 5 but I had the PR4 in my cb500x. Although it has less power than the Versys 650 and is a bit lighter I would expect similar results.

When I sold my Cb500x the tires had about 12000km with no significant wear. I would expect to do at least twice that value. I have a friend that had run several PR4 always closer to the 30000km mark. I didn't like the handling on the PR4. But was great in wet, not so much in the dry.

In my Versys I when for the Continental Contiroadattack 3. Great handling, great in dry and wet. It now has 3500km with no sinal of wear. I think it will do 10 to 12000km with no problem. This is heads and shoulder above the PR4.



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I ran Shinkos (Raven 009, I think) on my FZ6. Got around 12,000 miles pet set, and I got thru 2 sets of them. Great tire. Good grip in all conditions. Highly recommended. Great price too.

My 650 Versys had Shinko something. Normal road tire tread. I put about 4,500 miles on her before she was written off. Had no issues with the tire. Unfortunately I just don’t know what type of Shinko tire it was.

Honestly, for the price of the Shinkos, you can’t go wrong with them.

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Michelin pilot road 2-3-4. All good.
Keep pressure high (40psi rear, 36 front, gives me 21000km (13000miles)),
Don't follow the manual 36-32 psi which is for heating tires and grip but wears fast. It's just wrong for long distance loaded bike.

Original Dunlop = melting crap (rolling on steel cables at 11000km forcing emergency tire change during a trip. NEVER AGAIN).
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My V has PR2's on it now, Thats what the PO had on it.i have no idea how many miles are on the tires, Bike has 15000 miles.BUT the birth date is 2012 on both so I know its time to replace them for a long trip.The front tire has a weird wear pattern on the left side of the tire,Its not cupping just a slightly difrent angle of wear. I remember back when I was doing a lot of sport touring in the 1980's My tires always wore faster on the left side.I was told that tires will wear left much more then right because of the Crown of the road.Here is a short story,i was racing at Laguna Seca in Super Bike class, Michelin talked to several of us about running a new Radial tire. We could have them free if we tried them out.My Pit Crew installed a set on a track day and I made about two laps ( First lap was to warm them up and scrub them in,Nice and slow)Second lap was a little faster,The front tire grew so much it locked up the front tire in my Fork Brace and I went down.I thought I would NEVER consider a Radial tire on a Motorcycle again.Its comical to see some of the mind sets now toward bias ply tires.We used to run 180+ on bias ply tires back in the OLD days and never had a fear of doing it .

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Thank you Eddie, Just what I was looking for.I have been watching your posts on the shinkos,The price is great on them would you recommend that tire for a long trip?I am assuming you would but I had to ask LOL. are you also running a shinko on the front?Great record keeping, I thank you for that.
I run the SHINKO E705s on my AZ and my BC V650s: I put a fresh set on before my ride to D2D 2016, and needed to replace the rear 150/70 tire in Anchorage when I noticed it was worn down way MORE than I expected.

P6235168 by Ed Copeman, on Flickr

Looking at the above pic, I was probably premature, and could have finished the ride on it.... Here's the GPS mileage when I replaced it.

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I replaced it w/ a TKC knobby (a TKC80?)

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which made it all the way home, but the mileage info is in BC....

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...My riding includes mostly spirited and/or high speed loaded down. For comparison, see Fasteddie's post. I tend to keep the air pressure about 10% above recommendations....
Mine too, tho' perhaps NOT as 'spirited' as Steve's rides, but I don't know for sure.

I run 36psi front, 42psi rear. When I rode across Canada and back in '17 (8,668 miles over 25 days) I ran a set of ContiMotions which I removed (STILL w/ lots of tread!) when I got home, re-installing E705s, and gave the Contis to a friend.

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I used a Pirelli Angel GT (rear) bought in LPG Laos. Rode that tyre thru all of central and southern Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Malaysia, Myanmar, India, Nepal and to the border of Pakistan, where I changed to a Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2 (which I am still running). That damn tyre just would not die. I had around 20,000klms on it, on a fully loaded 1200cc bike 2 up. Definitely can recommend!

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