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I'd be surprised if they weren't

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I know more features would add to the price of the bike. I would like to see a special type R / XT off road variant in addition to the base ABS and LT models.

  • 19" spoked tubeless front wheel and 17" rear wheel with 50/50 tires
  • engine guard/ skid plate/ hand guards/ radiator guard
  • center stand
  • more ground clearance, more suspension travel, beefier shock and forks
  • foldable mirrors
  • TFT color screen with Carplay and bluetooth connectivity
  • LED headlights
  • adjustable height seat
  • a selectable way to disable ABS off/on
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electronic cruise control really requires ride by wire.
Not really ... mine has had an electronic cruise control unit since 2016.


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But let's add ride by wire to the 4th generation wish list

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A TFT screen is now highly likely to appear on the next refresh of the Versys. The 2020 Ninja 650 just got a 4.3" TFT with some app connectivity (not Carplay). The screen and a cosmetic refresh is about the only update the Ninja got though

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To me, the TFT screen is about the least attractive feature they could add to the bike. I love an analog tach, and go riding to escape staring at screen at work all day, so adding a fancy electronic screen to a bike is almost a negative for me.
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rsherman, I hate to say it but my take on your original post is : "I'd like a Yamaha Tracer 900 GT"

All those things are nice & I would like them as well but I would settle for a 700cc version that weighs 20 kg less, and yes, a half gallon more fuel.

The nice thing is dreaming/wishing only costs you time.
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If I could buy a Versys 650 that came stock with:
  • heated grips
  • up/down quickshifter
  • different riding modes
  • cruise control
  • a nice TFT screen
  • twin led headlights, that both were on as regular headlights and high beams, instead of just one being on for regular headlights
  • A better designed seat

I'd almost certainly be all in.
Am I asking for too much out of the next generation? Will that raise the price by too much?
I disagree with everything on that list.
* better have heated gloves, works everywhere, heats better, consumes less amps.
* shifter is fine
* 1 riding mode is fine; control your wrist.
* no need for cruise control, just buy the clamp one that you can use everywhere.
* lcd screen is perfect as it is, I don't need dead pixels on my bike too.
* headlight is fine, it's very handy to have a spare bulb all the time, and not blinding others.
* seat is perfect. wouldn't change a thing. no I'm not joking.



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  • 19" spoked tubeless front wheel and 17" rear wheel with 50/50 tires
  • engine guard/ skid plate/ hand guards/ radiator guard
  • center stand
  • more ground clearance, more suspension travel, beefier shock and forks
  • foldable mirrors
  • TFT color screen with Carplay and bluetooth connectivity
  • LED headlights
  • adjustable height seat
  • a selectable way to disable ABS off/on
I'm open to try a 19", but I have no issue with my 17" off road, given the 6" ground clearance limits how the 19 could make any difference.

I do wish for a solid skid plate, but that will always be aftermarket. What the versys needs is a solid and easy access frame to bolt under the engine, to compensate for the suspended engine design that leaves no attachment for such frame and bash plate. I don't care for the flimsy mere rock guards currently offered.

No center stand. It's just weight and noise. Never even wished I had one.

Ground clearance yes, but that will be an issue on the low seat height. I can imagine going from 6 to 8", but not at the cost of 2" seat height. Routing the exhaust differently will mean heat trouble elsewhere which I don't want either. Rising by 2 inches would probably give that much to suspension travel. I have no complaints about how beefy are the shork/forks. 43mm is not flimsy.

Folding mirrors (love them but) is not going to happen; this is how they make money with parts... Sorry.

No to addon electronics. This is direct $$$ on top of price. Do not mistake add ons for basic equipment. TFT color screens and BT are f* toys for kids.

Led headlights is not even an issue. It's already your choice, entirely replaceable.

Adj seat height: why would it not always be at the lowest when it is 33" already? No need for that if it only means leaning further forward and bringing my head in the wind.

Disabling ABS: not really but it should only be the matter of one menu switch. I know it's circulating a lot, but that's really not that necessary. I do plenty off roading and never needed to turn it off, not even last weekend again on a steep downhill at low speed. Simply turn ignition off if you don't want ABS.

(I expect some will argue they need to skid the rear to turn and wear prematurely tires (and cry on forums he can't gets more than 2000 miles out of any rear knobbie!) thinking this is the way to ride; I'm not going to hear any of it).
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My list:

Common base between street version and adv version:

* versatile frame hookup for aftermarket crashbars, bashplate and highway pegs.
* much sturdier rear fender and flap bracket (mine cracked, watch yours!)
* side holes for center lift (like abba sky lift)
* return to reusable foam air filter
* failsafe chain slack adjustment like on ninja 1000; too many cases of bolts stripping and jamming, not to mention bad alignment after a noob did my tire change...
* more underseat space for stuff.


Adv version:

* 2" longer suspension giving 2" ground clearance, add compression damping adj.
* front fender ready for 120/90 tires
* return to standard forks: really hate leaks and putting the axle back is a bitch
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if I'm answering your question I assume the basic points have been addressed, such as: did you do a compression test? is it still on fire?
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[QUOTE=rsherman;1630671]I don't blame you, it's a great bike. Are there any features that you wish it came with, stock, though? Or do you just think it's the right balance of bang for the buck?


A true bike will never be made in this period of economical challenges pose in the Globe Market. So OEM manufacturing will eye the market segment which they feel will be profitable. If one wants a bike that meets all criteria, than one has to make one by oneself. You make your Own Bike

I got the Versys because it fits by riding style and budget.
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if I'm answering your question I assume the basic points have been addressed, such as: did you do a compression test? is it still on fire?
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I got the Versys because it fits by riding style and budget.
...and it's 150-200 lbs lighter than a new FJR/Concours.

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And most of Canada too, eh?

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First of all it's a great thread and I hope maybe someone from Kawasaki will see it and consider some of the thing proposed here.

Here is my list;

- Center stand. Every cheapo 50cc scooter has it, i don't get what is the problem to make it standard.
- Rear hugger. Once again every fake Chinese scooter has it...
- Option to disable ABS
- built in USB
- One-hand windshield mechanical adjustment while riding.
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how about a 7th speed for highway comfort?
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My ONLY wish? Make the Versys650 at least 50 pounds lighter!

Everything ELSE comes from THAT!

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My ONLY wish? Make the Versys650 at least 50 pounds lighter!

Everything ELSE comes from THAT!
....and about 4" shorter...
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Sounds to me like some folks just want a different bike all together...

Why remake the wheel when there are other wheels that meet your needs?
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Just having the weight improvements from the Ninja 650 and maybe some better brakes and suspension would be fine by me. LED headlights that are more effective would be a plus.

I hate TFT displays, I would actually not purchase a bike because of this. I just like an analog tach that doesn’t reflect sunlight in my face and get washed out by the sun or blind me at night.


Keep the Versys simple and keep the costs down. None of that stuff makes it ride better but tacks on a ton of expense like what happened to the 1000SE. Granted that thing keeps getting marked down. To me all that stuff doesn’t make it better at all compared to the regular Versys 1000.

There’s a KLR coming and it’s probably a twin so keep that 19” tire the hell off the Versys lol, i want the sport bike handling to remain intact.
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how about a 7th speed for highway comfort?
Gearing is kind of a pet peeve of mine - motorcycles meant for the highway do not need close ratio gearboxes. I'm fine with 6 gears, but making 5th and 6th a little taller, with 6th being a true overdrive type of gear for 70+ speeds, would be great for most bikes, IMO.
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I disagree with everything on that list.
* better have heated gloves, works everywhere, heats better, consumes less amps.
* shifter is fine
* 1 riding mode is fine; control your wrist.
* no need for cruise control, just buy the clamp one that you can use everywhere.
* lcd screen is perfect as it is, I don't need dead pixels on my bike too.
* headlight is fine, it's very handy to have a spare bulb all the time, and not blinding others.
* seat is perfect. wouldn't change a thing. no I'm not joking.

I think you may have missed the point of this thread. I didn't post it as an excuse to be argumentative, but rather a place to fantasize a little about what the perfect Versys would be for you. How about just posting what you'd like, rather than itemizing why you think I'm wrong.
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