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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 10-25-2018, 04:12 PM Thread Starter
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I've been thinking of attempting to make my '12 Versys 650 into more of an off-road bike and wondered if anyone else had done This? If so, I was hoping to find out what changes were made and how satisfied they were with the conversion.
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There are a few folks around here who have done that (not me). Here's one thread:
https://www.kawasakiversys.com/forum...-off-road.html

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Don't do it........
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Of course. It a klr-type of weight so just dont push too much to end up pcking it up too much.
Otherwise, this is a bike that is smaller than the gs out there, so a lot of fun on forest service road, even some easy atv trails, but not as rugged.

a previous comment of mine:
https://www.kawasakiversys.com/forum...ml#post1261946

Stuff, in priority order:

50/50 tires
crashbars (I presume you already have handguards)
pegs with teeth
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tools and self rescue kit.
folding mirrors and shorter flexible turn signals.

all of which are discussed on this forum.
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Thanks to everyone for your thoughts and threads. I've been inspired recently by the MotoTrek Adventures YouTube videos and maybe doing portions of the TAT (Trans America Trail). At 75 I might be beyond making the entire 6800 mi.😊
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Riding a Versys off road is no great feat. Check out www.motosapiens.org if you want to see what adventure travelling is all about.

Click on "travels" and discover the bikes he chose to ride on different adventures.

Of course riding a bike designed for the particular environment means you can ride faster before exceeding the limitations of traction, suspension, braking, etc.

My Versys Travels:


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They have a sub-forum on such things over on ADVrider.com. I'd be surprised in a Versys or two weren't in there.

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Thanks guys, will check them out for sure.
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Replace the front turn signals with something smaller. The factory signals hit the ground in a tip-over. I have R&G Racing micro LED signals, with a load adapter (allows use of LED turn signals without changing out the flasher).

Crash bars which protect the lower portion of the engine. Most designs really only wrap the upper areas.

Skid plate. Depending on how rugged the terrain, you may want one. If it is just dirt roads I don't think you'll need it, but it wouldn't hurt (except the wallet).

Fenda Extenda. This keeps the debris from hitting the front of the motor and the radiator. I've been impressed that it hasn't ripped off when crossing deep water.

Radiator guard. Get a good one, not just a cosmetic thing. Something that will protect against stones damaging the radiator.

Tires. This is the big one imho. I have Pirelli Scorpion Trail II, which are a 90/10 tire, and I like them but would not endorse for what it sounds like you are intending. They are excellent on pavement, much better than the factory Dunlops. On dirt they are competent. They are not knobbies, so they are not so good in really slippery stuff like mud or sand. You may want something much more aggressive than a 90/10 tire.
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Done and proven here by local guys who have done Malaysia-Mecca & Malaysia - England. The only set back is at high speed above the 120Km mark the bike is reported to be not stable at Front.
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Just to add about tires:

50/50

Most can agree that given the limited choices in 17", the front tkc80 is good and will give you 10000km in general.

But just don't put tkc80 at the rear, it melts and is a waste of money.
For the rear tire, I have been pleased with anakee wild, and shinko 805, both providing an equal 10'000km, assuming you take the 170/60. I have been disgusted by the heidenau k60 scout (nearly no grip because of center strip). Lots of people were extremely satisfied with the discontinued mitas e07; the mitas e07plus that replaced it is probably worth a try.

I will eventually try the intriguing bridgestone ax41 http://www.advpulse.com/adv-products...oss-ax41-tire/.


70/30

For light offroad, I think the majority likes the shiko 705 (front and rear) especially for longevity. The K60 scout still doesn't qualify for 70/30 grip imho.

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I've been running Shinko 705's this summer, 120/60 front, 170/60 rear. Installed them myself and balanced using Counteract balance beads. 37psi front and 42psi rear, checked every other tank of fuel, which is twice weekly or more often. I'm ~200 lbs before ATGATT. Always have a top box, often have the bike loaded with gear almost equivalent to a pillion. Ride a little faster and a bit more aggressively than I probably should. Mostly paved roads, with some gravel and a little dirt for fun. I've got 11,000+ km on these tires and the rear is almost worn smooth in the center, maybe 2mm of tread remaining. The front shows little wear. These tires are more capable than I am, so I plan on buying a new rear tire for next season.
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All advice/opinions appreciated are much appreciated guys. Based on this, I'm assuming the changing to 19"/21"is believed not to be needed ......with the right tire selection.


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I can add the Kenda BIG BLOCK rears as a GOOD alternative, to go w/ the TKC 80 on the front.





FWIW - I got 9,750 miles on the BIG BLOCK, and 8,467 miles on the TKC 80.



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Thanks again and i love your state. Best part of my ride from Arkansas to Laguna Seca in Monterey race 3 yrs ago.


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That's awesome and no need for the 19" or 21".....right? Pavement handling ok too?


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Here is my outfitted ADV Versys. She is for sale if anyone wants to inquire.
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That's awesome and no need for the 19" or 21".....right? Pavement handling ok too?
Yes - worked FINE on and off road (those tires were a 150/70 Rear and a 120/70 Front, altho' I have a 130/80 x 17 Shinko E705 [rear] on the front, and have FOR YEARS except for that TKC80 'episode').

BTW - the 130/80 has a bit MORE diameter than does a 120/70 x 19, so equals a 19" front, for LESS $....

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BTW - the FIRST tire I ran in 130/80 was a METZLER TOURANCE, and I got 28,799 MILES on it over a 5-year span. I changed it out while it STILL had many miles left in it...!

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Not familiar with a 15/70 rear tire, but did you mean 150/70? Has anyone ever tried trials tires?


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