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What is your oil consumption?

I was doing my pre-flight check out on Ole Kawolski this weekend and noticed that my oil was low. This kind of shocked me as I did an oil change about 1500 miles ago. Ole Kawolski doesn't smoke or leave puddles of oil on the floor. I don't do a lot of high revs and usually ride between 5k and 6k revs. Yeah Ole Kawolski is 10 years old, but he only has 10k miles on the clock, but a third of a quart of oil after 1500 miles seems excessive. What kind of oil consumption do you get?

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I run 10w-40 Castrol Dino motorcycle oil, maybe I should go to 10w-50 in this Texas heat?
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Randy my versys is 2013. I run Rotella 5w40 synthetic. I change the oil every 3,000 miles. I haven't noticed any oil consumption at all. Are you measuring how much you put in and how much you drain out, or are you just looking at the sight glass and estimating by how much the level has dropped. If you hold the bike straight up and check the level then lean the bike ever so slightly in either direction the level will increase or decrease. So every time you stand the bike straight up it may not be exactly straight up every time. It's hard for one person to hold the bike straight up and view the oil level I believe that it why there is an upper and lower mark on the glass to compensate for this. If the bike has consumed a third of a quart, I believe the oil level would be below the lower line, or not visible in the glass at all. As long as it is between the marks ride it and don't worry.
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My 2008 has about 32,000 miles on it. Uses no oil. I sometimes buy Yamaha 10-40 by the gallon, or I use Honda 10-40, both oils suitable for wet clutch applications.

We lost so many Kawalski dealers in our area that I don't rely on them for oil or filters. I get those Bosch 3300 filters (now called ST3300) at auto parts stores. I steady my bike with one hand on a pannier and the other on the bar end / handguard bar to check my oil. It never asks for a drop between changes. It's actually due again now though for a change.

Reminds me it's time to pull the tank and check the air filter too.
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I have never needed to add oil between changes. I ride a 2007 with 63,000 km, 10W40 Motomaster four-stroke, non-synthetic motorcycle oil (made by Shell). I change the oil every 5000 km or so and sometimes re-use the filter occasionally if I don't have a spare.

Even changing oil at 5000 km is very cautious as the manual states that it should be good for 12,000 km. My used oil and filters go to the recyclers.
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19,000 miles here and no noticeable consumption here.

I change oil and filter every 2k miles. I run Castrol 06112 POWER 1 4T 10W-40 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil and use hiflo filters.

After riding liter bikes and bigger it's nice to only have to buy 2 quarts of oil at a time. Those bigger bikes would use twice the amount which meant twice the price. Another bonus for our little V-650's.

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I change oil and filter every 2k miles. I run Castrol 06112 POWER 1 4T 10W-40 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil and use hiflo filters.


Did you miss a digit? Maybe you intended to write 12k miles?

I'm just curious because 2k miles on synthetic oil is nothing more than a waste of money. Heck, there is probably more damage being done to the engine every time the engine is started and has no oil pressure (or flow) until the oil filter has been filled, compared to skipping 5 or 6 oil changes on that schedule!

To get back on topic, my 2011 with 30k+ km doesn't burn a drop with 12k km change interval. Running Motul 7100 full synthetic oil and oversized Purolator PBL14610 filter.
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My '08 only has about 15k miles on it... but it has never used a drop.

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2011 No noticeable use of oil at 15,000 miles.
I use Rotella t6 and change it every 5000 miles.
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Did you miss a digit? Maybe you intended to write 12k miles?

I'm just curious because 2k miles on synthetic oil is nothing more than a waste of money. Heck, there is probably more damage being done to the engine every time the engine is started and has no oil pressure (or flow) until the oil filter has been filled, compared to skipping 5 or 6 oil changes on that schedule!
I change it at 2000 miles not kilometers. Sure I probably could run it longer but it is looking dirty by 2k miles. Very cheap insurance.
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BTW :There ought to be a special place in Hell for an engine designer who would put a oil sight gauge on the right side of a kick stand bike that normally leans left.
+1 on that thought.

My SWAG is that you are not being consistent in measuring your oil level. I am pretty fastidious about such things so I sit on the bike, put a long level across the bars to make sure it is straight up and down and then I have the wife look at the sight glass. Once I get it above 1/2 way between the marks (after one run to fill the filter etc.) I never check it again. My change is about 5,000 miles with synthetic oil.

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I was doing my pre-flight check out on Ole Kawolski this weekend and noticed that my oil was low. This kind of shocked me as I did an oil change about 1500 miles ago. Ole Kawolski doesn't smoke or leave puddles of oil on the floor. I don't do a lot of high revs and usually ride between 5k and 6k revs. Yeah Ole Kawolski is 10 years old, but he only has 10k miles on the clock, but a third of a quart of oil after 1500 miles seems excessive. What kind of oil consumption do you get?

BTW :There ought to be a special place in Hell for an engine designer who would put a oil sight gauge on the right side of a kick stand bike that normally leans left.

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The ONLY time I had any oil-consumption was years ago w/ my '08. It was leaking from around the water-pump.



I leave my bike on the side-stand (steering locked) when I go somewhere. Then when I approach it, I come from the right side, pull the bike up-right and look down at the sight-gauge.

IF that doesn't 'work-for-you', hold it upright for a few seconds then let it go back onto the sidestand, and look down at the sight-gauge - the oil will show its level for a little while after you let it go back onto the stand.... Here's my '15 SHORTLY after I got home from last summer's cross-Canada ride - that oil stayed in for a bit FURTHER than my usual 8,000 kms between oil-changes, 13,950 kms as a matter of fact.

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I change it at 2000 miles not kilometers. Sure I probably could run it longer but it is looking dirty by 2k miles. Very cheap insurance.


Yes, I understand the difference between miles and kilometers, thanks. I still think a 3,219 km oil change interval is ridiculous on synthetic oil. The colour of the oil doesn't indicate much. I'd wager that if you sent a sample for testing, that it would come back as nearly new and good for 2x more use, at a minimum. But it is your bike and $, enjoy as you wish.

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i change oil every 7500 miles. rotella 5w-40. tranny shifted better with it. never has leaked or burned oil.
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i change oil every 7500 miles. rotella 5w-40. tranny shifted better with it. never has leaked or burned oil.
fyi, 2008 versys 650, 27,000 miles. did recommended break in.
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i change oil every 7500 miles. rotella 5w-40. tranny shifted better with it. never has leaked or burned oil.
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fyi, 2008 versys 650, 27,000 miles. did recommended break in.
FYI - I did the Motoman break-in on ALL THREE of my V650s, on the ride home from the dealer, LESS than 100 miles (then I changed the oil & filter):

Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

The '08 has 79,042 miles; my '09 HAD 62,790 kms when I "traded-it-in" for my '15; which just turned over 54,xxx kms. NONE use or USED any oil between oil changes (5K miles//8K kms).
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My 2008 has 44000 miles on it and uses zero oil on 4000 to 5000 mile changes. I have run Rotella or Mc specific 10w40 since new.

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I ride 2008. Versys 650 with 48k km on the tacho. Motul 5100 15W50 is in the engine and after 6000km at oil change there's no 1mm less of it
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I run 10w-40 Castrol Dino motorcycle oil, maybe I should go to 10w-50 in this Texas heat?
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Castrol's cheap mineral 10W-40 motorcycle oil is barely adequate for your conditions, at 5,000 to 6,000 rpm in that Texas heat. A proper synthetic 10W-50 is absolutely recommendable for you.

There's nothing wrong with the oil level sight glass design. It'd be crazy to think you can always have it at the same angle on the sidestand... Are you in fact checking your oil level properly, once settled and cooled down while holding the bike upright and balanced on a level surface?

Where the hell are you, by the way? Will you respond to this thread again?

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