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has anyone comparied the 650 vs the 1000? I currently have a 2014 650, debating on a 1000 for long trips, how does the 650 do on long trips?

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I'm on my second 650, I did long trips with my son and my wife, 750km in a day, no problems.
I did a test ride with a 1000, looks comfortable too.
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Iíve done a 1500 mile five day trip, through the blue ridge mountains and the 650 loved it. Iíve not ridden the 1000 but I can confirm the 650 will do just fine on whatever long trip you want to take.


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I've done two 2,000+ mile trips on my Ninja 650. I know it's not a Versys (same motor though) but you could say it's even less capable as a long ride tourer than the Versys 650 and it was alright. I guess it really depends on what you want in a tourer.


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I've had both the V-650 now the V-1000. If your happy with the 650 for everyday riding. You'll be happy with it on long trips also. It will cruise on the highway at 80-95 mph like it was made for it....I got the 1000 because i wanted one and I'm a big guy so wanted more power just to have and also when i ride 2-up....

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FWIW I did a 500 mile day on my 650 LT.

My joints complained a LOT, but the bike was ready, willling, and able.

I'd say unless it's two up and a LOT of gear to haul, either will do the job. JMO of course.
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the versys 650 is like the energizer bunny. It keeps going and going and going. you on the other hand have to stop and sleep.
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has anyone comparied the 650 vs the 1000? I currently have a 2014 650, debating on a 1000 for long trips, how does the 650 do on long trips?
Depends on the type of touring. If you’re doing long distance, multi day / week tours where serious rain, wind, or cold could be a concern, I’d go with a heavier, more touring dedicated bike such as the FJR1300, ST1300, or Concours. These bikes are going to have better weather protection for the rider.

I’ve done a lot of 400 to 700 mile trips on my 650 but I’ve always been able to predict the weather. The versys does great for this type of touring.

As to the 1000, now that I no longer do transcontinental touring, the only reason I’d want one would be for the passing power. I miss the arm stretching torque of the ST1100’s and 1300 I’ve had in the past.

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has anyone comparied the 650 vs the 1000? I currently have a 2014 650, debating on a 1000 for long trips, how does the 650 do on long trips?
I've done MANY, including an 8,668 mile, 25 day, cross-Canada camping trip last summer

http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...668-miles.html

as well as several rides to Dawson City and Alaska, and the 650 does GREAT!

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done south texas to alaska twice on my 2008 V properly tricked out with touring windscreen/spoiler, top box, soft bags, ergonomic changes. great all around bike, comfortable for up to 1000 mile days. like any bike, if it rains, you'll get wet. if it's windy, you'll get blown around some. but it will be much better in the cities and tricky roads than a heavier tourer. it's 10 years old and i'm having a hard time letting go of her. she's never let me down or left me stranded. just took a day trip to laredo. fun bike.
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done south texas to alaska twice on my 2008 V properly tricked out with touring windscreen/spoiler, top box, soft bags, ergonomic changes. great all around bike, comfortable for up to 1000 mile days. like any bike, if it rains, you'll get wet. if it's windy, you'll get blown around some. but it will be much better in the cities and tricky roads than a heavier tourer. it's 10 years old and i'm having a hard time letting go of her. she's never let me down or left me stranded. just took a day trip to laredo. fun bike.
How many miles on YOUR '08 (MINE has 79,042 miles)?

Keepin' MINE till it DIES...!








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How many miles on YOUR '08 (MINE has 79,042 miles)?

Keepin' MINE till it DIES...!







i'm just under 27,000 miles. due to health issues, the last 4 years i've only ridden locally except for a hill country jaunt and the laredo trip. plan on doing an out of state trip as i've sufficiently rehabed myself at this point. i've done some updates and fork/brake job, new 705's. she was top form on the laredo trip. the puig spoiler with the give screen worked wonderfully. why change a good thing? as for a my seat, it's stock. i might try putting washers under the tank latch to lift the front of the seat, as one feels that you're constantly slipping forward a bit, putting a shear force on your skin and increasing risk of an ischial (butt) sore riding long distances. otherwise stock seat works for me.
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I had the opportunity to ride a Versys 1000 this weekend for about 4-5 hours on familiar roads and must say it's a very nice motorcycle. Wider and longer but no more difficult to touch the ground than on my V 650. No comparison as far as the engine goes. I don't know what the low power mode is like. Never bothered to try that. I think if I ever owned one of these, I'd be riding two up and would have to install an electronic speed control. So easy for a liter bike to run away over the speed limit without noticing. It was very confidence inspiring in the corners. It seemed more prone to hold a line in corners better than the 650. Not that changes in line can't be made mid corner if necessary. Did I mention the power? Intoxicating and trouble making but so smooth. Very smooth transmission, nothing like the dear old clunky transmission on the 650. So if I had it to do over again, which would I choose? Given that I ride solo, probably I'd go with the 650 again simply because it's a little less weight and associated costs are a little less. If I had a partner to take along, I'd really want the Versys 1000.
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I did a 7000 mile tour on my '11 650 and never felt the need for more power. That was one up and 40 pounds of camping gear and luggage.

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I did a 7000 mile tour on my '11 650 and never felt the need for more power. That was one up and 40 pounds of camping gear and luggage.
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I ALSO carry a passenger often, and she loves riding pillion, tho' ALL my camping rides are SOLO ones.

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I'm a 300lb Yeti body and the 650 has plenty of power for me. The suspension and brakes are also up to the task.

I'm sure the 1000 is the better distance bike with more wheelbase and reduced rake to make it more stable. That and not needing to shift and be in lower RPM will make it a more mellow ride while I'm sure it's also fantastic in corners.

I went for the 650 knowing I wanted the least weight and the 75 lb difference between the two even if the 1000 is balanced underway is still there. Also the running costs will be more on the 1000 in chains, tires, insurance and premium fuel difference. It does get excellent mpg for a 1000.

Lastly I have zero curiosity in owning a 1000cc bike as my last two were 1050cc and 1150 cc with 120 and 105 hp. I get all my thrills on twisty roads riding as fast as street possible and you just cannot exploit a 1000 in those conditions. Watch Isle of Man for what a 1000cc bike or a 600cc with about the HP of the V1000 looks like fully exploited, can't do that ever lol. So after owning those bikes and realizing that other than a quick pass that power is just wasted 98% of the time while 100% paying the additional cost to have it I'm here a bit wiser with just the power I need.

If you hate shifting, want a bit more comfort, frequently ride at 90mph (out west highways) or ride two up (more spacious) or just plain like to have a more relaxed engine at cruise the V1000 is worth the weight penalty imo and I'd go that route, other wise I'll take the 75 less pounds more sportbike like geometry and "enough" power V650. It's quite fun to 100% use that 650 engine as well.
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I recently did a 5000 km trip to the east cost on my 2018 650 SE. Perfect bike for the trip.

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