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Modulating headlight?

To help being seen, I use a modulator on my headlight high beam at factory beam aim. Legal in all 50 states, it has a light sensor so it only modulates during daylight hours . in my opinion makes you a lot more visible.

Little surprised I don’t see more riders using a modulator. Why don’t more riders use a headlight modulator?

Cost $65-$120 depending on make model, simple plug and play install. Based on what folks will pay for useless farkels I don’t think it is a cost issue!

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To help being seen, I use a modulator on my headlight high beam at factory beam aim. Legal in all 50 states, it has a light sensor so it only modulates during daylight hours . in my opinion makes you a lot more visible.

Little surprised I donít see more riders using a modulator. Why donít more riders use a headlight modulator?

Cost $65-$120 depending on make model, simple plug and play install. Based on what folks will pay for useless farkels I donít think it is a cost issue!
I have had a headlight modulator on mine for the past few years.

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personally i hate them... i find them annoying , and i like to be able to use my pass switch...
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There's debate as to whether it increases or decreases safety. I've never had a headlight modulator, but I've had taillight modulators and extra taillights on prior bikes. The headlight modulators definitely get my attention when one is behind me, so that can't be all bad. Some folks believe they could fool oncoming cagers into thinking you're flashing them the OK sign to turn left in front of you. I haven't seen any hard evidence one way of the other.
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Unlikely a modulating headlight will be mistaken for an OK. The continuous high rate of flashing makes that unlikely. More often I get mistaken for a cop and folks in front slow down under the posted speed limit, my hi viz vest.
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I make sure to turn in front of assholes with headlight modulators. Stupid it's legal, it is incredibly distracting. Please remove that from your motorcycle so you stop making people think they can turn in front of you. You are just confusing everyone.
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When 80% use a constant beam of light and the balance 20% use flashing /modulating light
, you are only confusing people. Educating road users is not a easy job.

Most European build car have daylight running with a constant beam which is recognized, but if you put a modulating light then it mistaken for a ER vehicle.
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I make sure to turn in front of assholes with headlight modulators. Stupid it's legal, it is incredibly distracting. Please remove that from your motorcycle so you stop making people think they can turn in front of you. You are just confusing everyone.
Distracting! That is good! Maybe I get the attention of the aholes who are texting as they drive only occasionally glancing up but not really paying attention.
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I make sure to turn in front of assholes with headlight modulators.
Do you, a motorcyclist, really mean what you wrote here??? I can't believe it but I could be wrong...
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I've never been a fan of them because I think a driver could see it as you are flashing your light at them, like a "go ahead and pull out" gesture. But that's just my personal opinion.
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Twas a joke, but it's infuriating that anyone would actually think this helps. You are just confusing everyone.
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Twas a joke,
OK this makes more sense. I didn't get it.

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but it's infuriating that anyone would actually think this helps. You are just confusing everyone.
Although I have been around the block more than a few times, this is the first time I encounter this opinion from a fellow rider. I'm very surprised.

Note: IMHO these are legal in most or every US State and also in every Province up here.

BTW, in our Province, it is strongly suggested to install these on our motorcycles by our vehicle department. These have proven to be a great help in being more conspicuous. To think that these are confusing just blows me away. But this wouldn't be the first time.

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Personally I wouldn't put one on my bike. I hate when anyone is using highbeams, even during the day. I also believe that it would confuse others, depending on the frequency, since I very rarely see them used. I rely more on making sure I am seen with lane positioning, and other safety measures to help protect me from oncoming drivers and drivers behind me.
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I found this to be far more effective. Very reasonable priced too.

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I'm with the haters. Once had a "vehicle" approaching me with headlights flashing. I pulled to the side of the road to let what I thought was an "emergency vehicle" pass. Yes, I'm old enough to remember when emergency vehicles had flashing headlights. Anyway, turns out it was an obese husband and wife team on a pair of slow moving, thundering, cruisers. With headlight modulators set so slow their headlights were flashing on and off.

There is a difference between "being seen" and being "the focus of attention". Being the latter can get you into dangerous situations.
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Yes, had one installed back in the 70's, it flashed low/hi beams at four per second.

Yes, it does get you noticed and some folks may pull over.

Yes, it is distracting/annoying to other drivers.

In rush hour or heavy traffic it is far more than annoying to the drivers in front of you, you may want to consider a cutoff switch. So now you cut it off (no value) and forget to turn it back on, so what is the point?

Haven't had one since then.

IMO, DRL's and mobile phones are the two gadgets that have decreased motorcycle safety significantly.

IMO, hate to say it but guv'mint needs to look at LEDs (tooo bright, especially at night) and perhaps change the headlight color to yellow instead of blinding white/blue. The tiny pinpoint of LED lighting creates after images on my eyes, need to consider dropping clear lenses and use translucent for the turn/brake lights.

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For the record I have been using a modulator for 5 years. I would say it helps a lot more than it hurts. I also wear a hi viz vest and lane position where I can see and be seen. I turn the modulator off in stop and go traffic. It is more likely you will be confused with an emergency vehicle than someone flashing good to go. I will continue to use it and try to be mindful of stop and go situations. But it is legal and in my opinion beneficial.
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I found this to be far more effective. Very reasonable priced too.

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For the record I have been using a modulator for 5 years. I would say it helps a lot more than it hurts. I also wear a hi viz vest and lane position where I can see and be seen. I turn the modulator off in stop and go traffic. It is more likely you will be confused with an emergency vehicle than someone flashing good to go. I will continue to use it and try to be mindful of stop and go situations. But it is legal and in my opinion beneficial.
I've been using a modulator for the past 3 years and find it very helpful.

My modulator is connected to my hi beams and only functions in day light. When it is dark outside, it does not operate.

BTW I only use hi beam when touring by myself. If I ride in a group (very rare) I use low beam only.

With conspicuity in mind, my headlights and auxiliary lights have yellow covers during day time. I try to avoid night riding but when it happens, I remove the yellow covers from my lights.

I also wear hi viz riding gear.

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. If I ride in a group (very rare) I use low beam only.
Interesting, funny thing is if I am not leading a group I am often asked to take the tail and leave the modulator on. Many ride leaders like it because it let's them know the where the back of the group is.

I believe by law the modulator must NOT function from Dusk to Dawn. Mine came with a light sensor that turns it off automatically.
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