I'm planning on getting a new 17 in the spring of '18. This will be my 21st bike, having ridden off road, dual sports, cafe racers, touring, pretty much the whole spectrum. I enjoy touring most now that I'm 70, and my last touring bike was a BMW 1150GS with factory bags. Now that I'm looking at the Versys, I'd like some input from anyone who has used Tusk panniers. I'm thinking of using the Givi rack but I have questions about the mounting, detachable? or not. I hope someone out there can throw some light on this application.