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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 11-02-2011, 09:07 PM Thread Starter
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Versys on snow and ice

I saw this picture:



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http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...reply&p=167942

And I am reading (in this forum) about folks riding this thing in ALASKA ... of all places.

Alaska makes me think of lots of hard packed snow ... 9 months out of the year, and yet from that picture I am almost guessing that that bike rode over some of that white crap ... more than just 'some' in fact.

How exactly do you do that?

In the MSF course they thought us that snow/ice = bad. Snow/ice = stay home.

That picture tells me that snow and ice are rideable ...

Not sure that I want to push my luck to that point and i don't have enough experience riding in general to even attempt that, but I am curious: can the Versys (or any other bike for that matter) ride over snow?

Do you need to do something "special" to it? I'm guessing that the stock tires don't cut it?
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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 11-02-2011, 09:23 PM
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If the snow is deep forget it. A bike can be ridden on shallow or packed snow, the more knobbier the tires the better. A bike can be ridden on ice in straight line. I have done both. I would never do it intentionally especially ice except to get to a more ride able surface. It's very difficult to make any miles.

This was one day that it became necessary.

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Knobbier tires help. Surprisingly enough, the wheel+tire assemblies (also the crankshaft, balancer shaft, flywheel, clutch, transmission shaft+gears, etc) produce enough centrifugal force to keep it well upright, even with rear tire spinning in low traction... Coefficient of friction is not too bad on packed snow, but pretty low on glare ice, which greatly reduces braking and turning control limits.

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I came over Independence Pass on Monday- it was still occasionally icy and snowpacked in the shade from the storm last week. You can go straight, but braking and turning become challenging, at least on street tires.
BTW, they closed the road for the season on Tuesday... I might have been the last bike over it! Last night we got 11" of snow, and I'll be putting the Versys away until March...
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Unless to engage in "ice racing"...venturing out on a motorcycle in snow/ice conditions sounds like a very bad idea. In fact...it sounds quite irresponsible.

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Have not attempted to ride a motorcycle in snow and ice, but when I was a kid we rode our bicycles on snow, ice, frozen ponds, etc. Yes, we went down now and again, but being kids we bounced. I wouldn't want to try that now.
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Have not attempted to ride a motorcycle in snow and ice, but when I was a kid we rode our bicycles on snow, ice, frozen ponds, etc. Yes, we went down now and again, but being kids we bounced. I wouldn't want to try that now.
I put studded snows on my Schwinn and ride it all winter long. This was yesterday- I don't have the snow tires on yet. So take that, south carolina
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With knobbies for snow and studs for ice, a person could probably do alright. I'm not that dedicated; don't want to be that cold, either.

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Thumbs up Versys on some snow slush mud gravel...

A nice day to hit the mountains Oct 23. The riding season is coming to a close... I gave her a warm bath when she got home and put her to bed. >






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Snow and Ice on the road for me means:

ABS
Traction control
9.5" of clearance
M/S tires preferably off road tires


Did I forget to say 4 wheels and all time 4 wheel drive and a nice warm spot for the Versys in the garage.
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I would think as long as you stay on roads that are maintained year round by road crews you should be able to ride on them. It's the unmaintained rods you will need another set of tires and studs for and probably some heated clothing
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I would think as long as you stay on roads that are maintained year round by road crews you should be able to ride on them. It's the unmaintained rods you will need another set of tires and studs for and probably some heated clothing
Oh.......... at 5c we both had heated jackets on. At anything under 10 wouldnt be caught without it.
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With such a high center of gravity along with the inability of a lot of us to flatfoot both feet at any time.(uneven ground/snow)I wouldn't try it myself, the front end wants to slide out at the least of efforts to change direction or brake. The rear upon any acceleration. Our feet on ice too, wanna slide out from under us. Ride a Versys? Me, no!

Had a young buddy ride his 185cc. cruiser type bike most of the winter one season. He'd put some screws in the knobby type tires which helped on snow and ice, but then the dry pavement was more treacherous.
His feet were down most of the time, stopping, starting, turning.
Of course he was down often as well. If vehicles around you are also prone to lose control, I'd like some "steel" around me.jmo.

The only/best defensive driving one can perform on a bike on ice is to get off the ice.

For me this means don't ride. I'll wait for springtime.
It's hazardous enough out there, even on dry pavement. My .02 cents.


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I came over Independence Pass on Monday- it was still occasionally icy and snowpacked in the shade from the storm last week. You can go straight, but braking and turning become challenging, at least on street tires.
BTW, they closed the road for the season on Tuesday... I might have been the last bike over it! Last night we got 11" of snow, and I'll be putting the Versys away until March...
I feel your pain!!! Snow here too!!!





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