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Dealer says bike isn't charging the battery...

But it will run fine if I bump start it. My original 3 year old, 40K mile battery died and so did the new one that I got from the dealer. I thought he just didn't charge it, so it failed. It probably isn't charging, but I'm just not trusting of the dealer. Can someone tell me steps to diagnose it myself? Stator or rectifier? I could sometimes smell a burning smell when I shut the bike off. Normally after I had ridden it harder than normal. It smelled electrical, but I don't know if there is any correlation there.
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I'm not sure, but with fuel injection, I don't believe the V will bump-start with a dead battery. Have you checked the battery's voltage, and your fuses?

IF the voltage indicates the battery IS charging, the problem's somewhere else.

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I wish I could help you on the steps for the Versys for troubleshooting the Stator and Rectifier but it sounds like a stator problem to me. I replaced a few (on other bikes) and the bike would bump start but if you try to run it for very long, it will die. It's just running on what's left in the battery.
Hope you get it figured out though.

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While it is running at about 2k rpm or more the battery should be receiving 14 + or -. If it isn't I would check the voltage regulator first then the stator. The only thing the rectifier does is change the stator voltage from ac to dc. This is all without consulting the shop manual and I could be way off base.
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16-32 ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Charging System
•To check the alternator output voltage, do the following
procedures.
○Turn off the ignition switch.
○Disconnect the alternator lead connector [A].
○Connect the hand tester as shown in the table 1.
○Start the engine.
○Run it at the rpm given in the table 1.
○Note the voltage readings (total 3 measurements).
Table 1 Alternator Output Voltage
Tester Connections
Range Tester (+) to Tester (–) to
Reading
at 4 000 rpm
AC 250 V One White lead Another White lead 42 V or more
If the output voltage shows the value in the table, the alternator
operates properly.
If the output voltage shows a much higher than the value
in the table, the regulator/rectifier is damaged. A much
lower reading than that given in the table indicates that
the alternator is defective. •Check the stator coil resistance as follows.
○Stop the engine.
○Connect the hand tester as shown in the table 2.
○Note the readings (total 3 measurement).
Table 2 Stator Coil Resistance
Tester Connections
Range Tester (+) to Tester (–) to
Reading
1 Ω One White lead Another White lead 0.18 ∼ 0.27 Ω
If there is more resistance than shown in the table, or no
hand tester reading (infinity) for any two leads, the stator
has an open lead and must be replaced. Much less than
this resistance means the stator is shorted, and must be
replaced. •Using the highest resistance range of the hand tester,
measure the resistance between each of the black leads
and chassis ground.
Any hand tester reading less than infinity (∞) indicates a
short, necessitating stator replacement.
If the stator coils have normal resistance, but the voltage
check showed the alternator to be defective; then the rotor
magnets have probably weakened, and the rotor

from page 16-32 of the service manual which can be found [COLOR="Red"][U

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Thanks for posting that info Tinner. I don't have a service manual yet, so I will copy that into my word file for future reference in case I need it.

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Thanks for posting that info Tinner. I don't have a service manual yet, so I will copy that into my word file for future reference in case I need it.
[quote=tinner;160302]
from page 16-32 of the service manual which can be found [COLOR="Red"]
Go to the page that Tinner linked, right-click the Service Manual

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Go to the page that Tinner linked, right-click the Service Manual (it's the one truncated "2007-K...ice-Manual.pdf" and select "save as..." to your computer.
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+1 and also the parts manual.
There is more info on the pages following the one I quoted.

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