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New motorcycle gear safety study

New study announced into the safety of motorcycle gear.....


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Ms de Rome said “One of the most important findings was the difference it made to be wearing body armour, particularly for hands and knees.”

When garments included fitted body armour there was a significantly reduced risk of any injury. This included a reduced risk of any injury to the upper body by 23%, legs by 39%, hands by 45% and feet by 45%. The results also found riders wearing shoes or joggers had a much higher risk of foot and ankle injuries, as any type of boot reduced risk of injury by 53%.

While there are limits to the extent clothing can prevent injury in high impact crashes, it is in low impact crashes that protective clothing is thought to offer the greatest injury reduction. There is also evidence that the majority of motorcycle crashes do not involve high impacts.
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For those who would rather "listen" to the results of the study, rather than read it. (The video is a short interview with the study's author.)

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... One of the most important findings was the difference it made to be wearing body armour, particularly for hands and knees.

When garments included fitted body armour there was a significantly reduced risk of any injury....
What a surprising revelation! Im shocked!
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So I'm not nuts for wearing ATGATT in the heat of summer!
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I wear ATGATT, but the level of gear varies greatly.

I will ride in full up race leathers with race rated gaunlet gloves, race boots, track approved full face.

But I will also ride in 6" Tourmaster Response Road boots, kevlar jeans, mesh jacket, full finger mesh gloves, and modular helmet.

The most important thing is how you ride. lane position. willing to give up your right away at a moments notice. choosing roads less travelled. Riding like you are invisible instead of invincible.
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I have recently proven that ATGATT is the ONLY way to ride. I just wish this message would get out there more often.
Also, "Top Quatlity" gear is considerably better then things in the $100 price range. If I had've known that a few weeks ago I would have had a Joe Rocket jacket to match my Joe pants. Sadly I had a lesser quality textile coat (with armour etc) that I can now thank for the road rash on my arm.
See here where I made the paper.
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Someone would have to be nuts to wear anything less, I feel. Back in my 20's when I thought I was invincible, I'd ride in a t-shirt, shorts and tennis shoes. Even though I never crashed, the recipe was there. Distractions galore... bugs hitting you in the chest at 40mph doesn't feel very good.

One of the worst distractions I ever had was a bee that flew up my shorts. Got stung in the inner thigh. The pain was awful. You can't tell me you can have full control of a bike when you're desperately hitting yourself in the leg for 10 seconds trying to smoosh a bug and not keeping full attention on the road ahead of you.

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...One of the worst distractions I ever had was a bee that flew up my shorts. Got stung in the inner thigh. The pain was awful. You can't tell me you can have full control of a bike when you're desperately hitting yourself in the leg for 10 seconds trying to smoosh a bug and not keeping full attention on the road ahead of you...
I've had a bee get inside my jacket and it wasn't dead -- not by a long shot. Trust me, that is good, real-world, emergency braking technique practice. That has been the only time I wished I wasn't wearing gear while riding.

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The results also found riders wearing shoes or joggers had a much higher risk of foot and ankle injuries, as any type of boot reduced risk of injury by 53%.


http://www.georgeinstitute.org/about...r-just-weather
I think this was the only portion of the sound bite that surprised me much, considering how many riders stress motorcycle-specific boots and will scold you for wearing simple work boots.

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I've had a bee get inside my jacket and it wasn't dead -- not by a long shot.
ditto. gear won't protect you from a bee. i've had one enter my jacket collar and another get sucked into my helmet by the chin. not cool.

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if there is one thing about the american people its that they like to hear info that they already know but in a british or australian accent. Sh!t we will buy anything from you if you just say it like you are an announcer of wimbleton.

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I think this was the only portion of the sound bite that surprised me much, considering how many riders stress motorcycle-specific boots and will scold you for wearing simple work boots.
clearly any boot is better than any tennie. and not all moto-specific boots are alike. i have road racer boots, waterproof track-worthy boots, dual-sporty boots and almost-street boots. i will ride in my hiking boots for a short ride to a hiking trail. i'd rather be in the road racer boots all the time, i think they are more protective in more crash scenarios, and the waterproof ones are more versatile. but as long as you have something rugged that covers your ankles, you're at least reducing the risk of injury.

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Roadrace boots have nothing on these:
http://www.aerostich.com/off-and-rid...ing-boots.html

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I'm new to riding and don't contribute much here, but sure do read everything I see here and have learned plenty from all of you good folks.
The information does seem like what we take as common sense, but one thing in the video concerns me.

At about 3:36 she states that 25% of the gear failed in the accidents. I would like to hear specifics on this. Was it low quality gear or a matter of quality control from the manufacturers as she implies?

That kind of worries me without knowing exactly what kind of failures they are talking about. Anyone have any further info on that? Or ideas?

For the record, I wear ATGATT and just invested in a pair of Bohn Armor pants as well. I hate to think that there is only a 75% chance that they will do what they were intended to do.
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ttpete, those combat touring boots are exactly what i refer to as "dual-sporty" in my post above. trust me, they have nothing on my alpinestars supertech boots. with the a*, it's like placing your feet and ankles in a vault. you wouldn't want to walk around in them all day, but they are quite reassuring on the bike. the "track-worthy" boots (SM-X GTX) are a step up in protection, as well. more surprising, they hike better than the aerostich boots.

Woody, she mentioned quality control as the issue. for the most part, i think you get what you pay for in riding gear.

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At about 3:36 she states that 25% of the gear failed in the accidents. I would like to hear specifics on this. Was it low quality gear or a matter of quality control from the manufacturers as she implies?
Woody99, "ALL" of my gear did what I would consider to be a "fail" in my recent wreck. It was all textile material.
Racing leathers would have held up much better obviously.
BUT I walked (with assistance) away.
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What you mean a wife beater shirt and a novelty German Nazi helmet wont hold up?
Sure could fool me by looking at the weekend warrior crowd.
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an announcer of wimbleton.
LOL Bamf, that is the one word where the "d" pronounced by Americans is actually a "d". It's Wimbledon.
And yes British English does have some magical charm, I don't know what it is but a pretty girl with a nice British accent suddenly is twice as attractive.
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risk of injucry reduction: 45 motorcycle boots, 53 any boots
That means that riders with non-motorcycle type boots were less likely to be injured than riders with motorcycle boots. I think paradox effect is due to the inclusion of scooters. You rarely see scooterists wearing motorcycle type boots, but they have a smaller risk of injury compared to motorcyclists because of the way a scooter is built. Basically, on a scooter it's harder to get your foot/leg trapped under your ride.

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