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Kawi ticket to ride. Seeing if in Im missing something

Just got off a C14. Absurd amount of power. Silk smooth power delivery. Great handling for such a big bike. Dissappointed with the ergos. Handlebars are too low for me. Too much lean forward for touring. Waiting to try the ninja 1000.
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Good stuff. I'm thinking about going to one myself for exactly those same bikes.

BTW, how tall are you?
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If you don't like the forward lean of the C14, I doubt you'll like the Ninja 1000.

Both are nice bikes.....I think you should buy one!!! lol
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I felt like the C14 spread my legs too far and I would only buy it if I was doing coast to coast touring. I never felt the power, but was never able to get the RPMs up high.

For me the Ninja 1000 was buzzy in the right foot, and too leaned over.

The Versys on the other hand was the best ride of the three and the one I bought. With just the throttle I can ride the front tire just off the pavement through 3rd, and by then I am going insanely fast. Why would I ever want more power than that and sacrifice fuel economy?
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Should mention that risers are available for the C14, but not sure how tall they are.
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Back home now. Rode the ninja 1000. Fast, fun, ergos are much better than expected. The lean forward is about the same as the connie. However, since it's a lot smaller and nimbler than the connie it is not as objectionable. This bike is extremely comfortable. However, Im not convinced its a bike to spend 6,8 hrs riding in a single day. Still the versys ergos are very hard to beat. Did I say it is fast The ride took us through a set of twisties. This thing felt it have a wrap drive when exiting turns. I would have a very hard to keep up with this one on a versys.
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While the connie power delivery is so smooth that makes the ride almost boring, the ninja 1000 felt like a very civilized rocket. Fun, fast, fun, fast, handling was extraordinary. Both bikes remind me to check the breaks on mine. The electronic break controls in the connie are fantastic. When applying the rear break only, like I do to control mid turn speed, you get a very suttle reminder with a vert small movement in the front break lever. I could not feel the ftont break engaging. However, felt the slight release of the pressure on the front break lever.

Not totally convinced to give up the versys for neither of them. But Im inclined in favor of the connie. It fits.better the kind of riding I do when touring. It's in everyday riding that the versys beats both of these.
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BTW . Connie rides 2,500 rpms @70mph in 6th. During the ride through the twisties I only shift to third once just to see what happened. Like I said in the earlier post, the amount of power in the connie is absurd. Still will like to have it
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Yep- I agree. The Versys, C14, and the Ninja 1000 all have their niche, and are all nice bikes. Be great to have one of each to fit the mood a guy was in!!! I think the Versys does the best job of covering the bases........
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Started the phsycological treatment on my wife to see if I can have the cake and eat it too.

BTW they had a 2011 Versys. The red on black looks awesome. Did not had a chance to ride it. However, got it started while sitting on it and rev it to see if the rubber mounts made a difference. The vibes did came down a bit. Will have to ride it for a while to see if it really made much of a difference.

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Surprised you found the 1000 ergo's more comfortable than the connie. Not surprised about the "more fun to ride" ratio.

Sitting in the store and NOT riding them, the connie seems more comfortable to me.

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Surprised you found the 1000 ergo's more comfortable than the connie. Not surprised about the "more fun to ride" ratio.

Sitting in the store and NOT riding them, the connie seems more comfortable to me.
One can easily get a completely wrong impression that way. One example: I loved the way the Triumph America felt in the showroom, but hated it on the road. It was something that made me very nervous about buying the Versys; I wasn't able to take a test ride. But the triangle was good enough that I took the chance, and am not sorry I did. I'm personally not surprised that someone who likes the Versys position would prefer the N1000. It's very similar, with a bit more forward lean. The C14's a bit more aggressive in that regard, IIRC. And wider.

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I'm personally not surprised that someone who likes the Versys position would prefer the N1000. It's very similar, with a bit more forward lean. The C14's a bit more aggressive in that regard, IIRC. And wider.


Your comment is right on the money. However, my expectations can be part of the reason. I was expecting the connie to be a very comfortable long range bike. With my short arms I do not know if I want to spend two or three hours non stop down the highway in a stock connie. I saw a bar riser on the web that might fix the problem. I was expecting the Ninja to have an agressive position and felt it very comfortable. I also tested the Ninja second which might have given me time to adjust myself to a more aggresive lean forward.

BTW Now I feel I need to adjust my Versys clutch and breaks. I liked them a lot on the Ninja, or I can get back used to them

Wife is already stating her objection to a more expensive ride. She wants her BMW first. It's going to be a long hard sell.
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Wife is already stating her objection to a more expensive ride. She wants her BMW first. It's going to be a long hard sell.
i'm not married, but i think you should go ahead with the beemer. grease the skids, man.

In a world full of people, only some want to ride. Isn't that crazy?
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When I say BMW I mean the ones with four wheels, a sun roof and leather seats. There is a reason why it is called the ultimate driving machine.

After you buy one you are broke and cannot afford anything else. Including a bike. I will try the old fashion thing. Flowers and a year membership for a Spa. If that does not work I get a new set of tires and a new chain for the Versys and keep riding
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Z1000 looks more upright than ninja1000 or connie

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Z1000 looks more upright than ninja1000 or connie

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Capt Kirk had a link to a ergo link that you can put your height, inseam and test any bike for your sitting lean angle, can't find it at moment but from memory Z1000 is more up right as I am interested in the Z1000SX.
http://cycle-ergo.com/

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I did not notice any difference between Z1000 and Ninja 1000. cycle-ergo.com have both bikes in the same option.
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Actually the Ninja 1000's bars are almost 2" higher and the pegs are almost an inch lower than the Z1000.

Both are great bikes!

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I sold my C14 when I bought my Versys. I miss it. It was incredibly smooth, faster than you need, and the locking saddlebags were voluminous. The ride position is easily changed with some bar risers. I averaged 40-42 mpg on mine, even with the occasional "test flight".
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