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Study of WD-40 and other chain cleaners

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Good report. I've been using WD 40 to clean, Teflon Spray to lub, have nearly 19,000 miles with original chain. Sprockets look ok as well.

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Though not necessarily THE definitive study, it does cause me to feel better about using WD-40. Doesn't appear that I'm ruining the chain. Thanks for the link.

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Yep, been using WD40 on chains since I was a kid. Couldn't afford real chain lube and dad always had some around. I remember the first time I bought real Yamaha Chain Lube, I was so happy that I could now really lube and protect my chain, I think I was 15. What a mess that made on everything, and the dirt stuck to it like glue. It took awhile to clean that thing with WD40, and I never went back.

When they came out with the dry wax lube I started using that and then pretty much used the WD40 just to clean and dry after a wet ride, or washing, and then lube with dry lube.

I know everyone says it's more of a cleaner than a lube, but how come when you have a squeaky door hinge and you put some WD40 on it the squeak goes away instantly and last a very long time? Heck I remember one squeaky hinge on my front door that got a good squirt many, many years ago and is still quiet??? Go figure...

Great stuff, I call it the Wonder Drug 40 and buy it by the gallon.
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Took the V into the shop to have the OEM chain replaced at about 22,000 mi. Conversation went something like this:

Mechanic: This chain is a mess. Do you ever clean it?
Me: Ya. I think I wiped it down with an oily rag last year some time. But I do lube it quite often. Why?
Mechanic: Well, if you clean it they'll last a lot longer.
Me: Wow. That's good to know.
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And just to add to the "confusion" - my '08 V has over 22,000 miles. The chain has ONLY had WD40 for lube, and it's been only adjusted 9 'flats' in that time (1 1/2 turns on the adjuster nuts).
On my '04 KLR650 I changed out the ORIGINAL chain at 54,000 kms (33,480 miles).
As you might guess - WD40 works for ME!!!

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Can't be certain, but I suspect that coal oil would work just as well on the sealed chains ??
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Can't be certain, but I suspect that coal oil would work just as well on the sealed chains ??
I believe you're right. It's just that WD40's more convenient for me and the trips I do.

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I have been using WD40 to clean, and Militec-1 to lube them ... Every 800 miles for street bikes. I get nearly double the life than using any sort of chain lube or gear lube. (The Militec is amazing stuff and literally lets you run a clean and almost dry chain)

Key is keeping grit OFF the chain IMO
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Dupont dry Teflon lube has gotten rave reviews on webbikeworld.com.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motor...n-chain-saver/
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Couple problems. WD40 is not technically a penetrating oil. Penetrating oils, to my understanding, are things like Liquid Wrench which basically have very little lubricating qualities but are made to brake down corrosion, gunk, crud, whatever and, duh, penetrate more quickly than lubricants. It uses a very light carrier solvent to accomplish this and most contain graphite or some other substance with some lubricating qualities. In a pinch I have used 3in1 oil mixed with a bit of gasoline (lightweight carrier) as "liquid wrench" and it worked like a charm.

I have been told, might just be urban legend, that the carrier solvent in WD40 is, for all intents and purposes, kerosene.

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Couple problems. WD40 is not technically a penetrating oil. Penetrating oils, to my understanding, are things like Liquid Wrench which basically have very little lubricating qualities but are made to brake down corrosion, gunk, crud, whatever and, duh, penetrate more quickly than lubricants. It uses a very light carrier solvent to accomplish this and most contain graphite or some other substance with some lubricating qualities. In a pinch I have used 3in1 oil mixed with a bit of gasoline (lightweight carrier) as "liquid wrench" and it worked like a charm.

I have been told, might just be urban legend, that the carrier solvent in WD40 is, for all intents and purposes, kerosene.
There was a difference in the test results between kerosene and WD-40 with WD-40 being more inert.
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After every ride, I ride just about everyday. I put the bike up on the stands and spray down the chain with WD40 and have only had to move rear out 3mm in 3300 miles. Every weekend I take one of those 3 sided brushed and brush the chain down real good.

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Couple problems. WD40 is not technically a penetrating oil. Penetrating oils, to my understanding, are things like Liquid Wrench which basically have very little lubricating qualities but are made to brake down corrosion, gunk, crud, whatever and, duh, penetrate more quickly than lubricants. It uses a very light carrier solvent to accomplish this and most contain graphite or some other substance with some lubricating qualities. In a pinch I have used 3in1 oil mixed with a bit of gasoline (lightweight carrier) as "liquid wrench" and it worked like a charm.

I have been told, might just be urban legend, that the carrier solvent in WD40 is, for all intents and purposes, kerosene.
I use penetrating lubricants quite a bit at work, and I don't know if I would use them on a O-Ring chain. The O-rings seal-in grease from the manufacturer, and I would think a penetrating oil would be more aggressive in getting at that internal grease and breaking it down. Most say that oem grease only lasts the first 1/3 of the chains life, so who knows. I woudl want that grease in there as long as possible though lubing the inner rollers ...

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After every ride, I ride just about everyday. I put the bike up on the stands and spray down the chain with WD40 and have only had to move rear out 3mm in 3300 miles. Every weekend I take one of those 3 sided brushed and brush the chain down real good.
What a PITA.

I'll just lube mine every 400 or 500 mis and replace it when it wears out.
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While the install is new on my recently acquired versys, I've had my pro-oiler on two other motorcycles. I've never needed to make a chain adjustment while using the pro-oiler. Wear is what creates chain "stretch" and since using a pro-oiler virtually eliminates a non-lubricated and dirty chain, wear is greatly reduced. Additionally the motorcycle runs more efficiently since its never in a state of a poorly lubricated chain.

My motorcycle is my main mode of transportation year round and the less amount of time I have to spend doing any sort of maintenance the better.
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What a PITA.

I'll just lube mine every 400 or 500 mis and replace it when it wears out.
Me too!
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What a PITA.

I'll just lube mine every 400 or 500 mis and replace it when it wears out.
Not a pain at all, just put the stand under the rear tire and spray down the chain with WD40, takes about 3 mins to do. I ride year round, so it really helps in the winter time when they put the anti-ice stuff on the road.

I put between 200 to 400 miles a week on the bike any way.

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Is WD-40 bad for the bushings?

"Be sure to use designated motorcycle O-Ring chain cleaner to clean your chain. Other cleaners, such as WD-40, will erode the lubrication in the O-Ring chain's bushings, leading to chain failure."

Ref: How to Clean a Motorcycle O-Ring Chain | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_5939680_clea...#ixzz1GbCkXTzv
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WD-40...the facts

Don't know the validity of the following, but it makes for a good read:
(sorry, it has Australian spelling of most words...the right way to spell...;-)



A lady got up very early one morning and went outside to pick-up the
Sunday paper, she noticed someone had sprayed red paint all around the
sides of the neighbours brand new beige truck. She went over and woke him
up and gave him the bad news. He was, of course extremely upset.

They stood there trying to figure out what could be done about the
problem. They decided there wasn't much recourse but to wait until
Monday, since nothing was open. Just then another neighbour came out of
his house, surveyed the situation and immediately went to get his WD-40
and cleaned the red paint off with it. Guess What! It cleaned up that
paint without harming the original paint on the truck! I'm impressed!!

Water Displacement #40. The product began from a search for A rust
preventative solvent and de greaser to protect Missile parts. WD- 40 was
created in 1953 by three technicians at the San Diego Rocket Chemical
Company. Its name comes from the project that was to find a 'water
displacement' compound. They were successful with the fortieth
formulation, thus WD-40. The Corvair Company bought it in bulk to
protect their atlas missile parts.

Ken East (one of the original founders) says there is nothing in WD-40
that would hurt you...' IT IS MADE FROM FISH OIL' . When you read the
'shower door' part, try it. It's the first thing that has ever cleaned
that spotty shower door. If yours is plastic, it works just as well as
glass. It is a miracle! Then try it on your stove-top... It is now
shinier than it has ever been before.

1) Protects silver from tarnishing.

2) Removes road tar and grime from cars.

3) Cleans and lubricates guitar strings.

4) Gives floors that `just-waxed` sheen without making it slippery.

5) Keeps flies off cows.

6) Restores and cleans chalkboards.

7) Removes lipstick stains.

8) Loosens stubborn zippers.

9) Untangles jewellery chains.

10) Removes stains from stainless steel sinks.

11) Removes dirt and grime from the barbecue grill.

12) Keeps ceramic/terra cotta garden pots from oxidising.

13) Removes tomato stains from clothing.

14) Keeps glass shower doors free of water spots.

15) Camouflages scratches in ceramic and marble floors.

16) Keeps scissors working smoothly.

17) Lubricates noisy door hinges on vehicles and doors in homes

18) It removes black scuff marks from the kitchen floor! Open some
windows if you have a lot of marks.

19) Bug guts will eat away the finish on your car. Removed quickly, with
WD-40!

20) Gives a children's play gym slide a shine for a super fast slide.

21) Lubricates gear shift on lawn mowers.

22) Rids kids rocking chairs and swings of squeaky noises.

23) Lubricates tracks in sticking home windows and makes them easier to
open.

24) Spraying an umbrella stem makes it easier to open and close.

25) Restores and cleans padded leather dashboards in vehicles, well as
vinyl bumpers.

26) Restores and cleans roof racks on vehicles.

27 ) Lubricates and stops squeaks in electric fans.

28) Lubricates wheel sprockets on tricycles, wagons, and bicycles for
easy handlin g.

29) Lubricates fan belts on washers and dryers and keeps them running
smoothly.

30) Keeps rust from forming on saws and saw blades, and other tools.

31) Removes splattered grease on stove.

32) Keeps bathroom mirror from fogging.

33) Lubricates prosthetic limbs.

34) Keeps pigeons off the balcony (they hate the smell).

35) Removes all traces of duct tape.

36) Folks even spray it on their arms, hands, and knees to relieve
arthritis pain

37) Florida 's favourite use 'Cleans and removes love bugs from grills
and bumpers.'

38) Protects the Statue of Liberty from the elements.

39) WD -40 attracts fish. Spray a LITTLE on live bait or lures and you
will be catching the big one in no time.

40) Ant bites. It takes the sting away immediately and stops the itch.

41) WD-40 is great for removing crayon from walls. Spray on the mark and
wipe with a clean rag.

42) If you've washed and dried a tube of lipstick with a load of
laundry, saturate the lipstick spots with WD-40 and Presto! Lipstick is
gone!

43) If you spray WD-40 on the distributor cap, it will displace the
moisture and allow the car to start.

Keep a can of WD-40 in your kitchen cabinet. It is good for oven burns
or any other type of burn. It takes the burned feeling away and heals
with NO scarring.

Remember, the basic ingredient is FISH OIL
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