Let's so I don't care about fuel consumption. While idling for 30 minutes do harm? - Kawasaki Versys Forum
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Let's so I don't care about fuel consumption. While idling for 30 minutes do harm?

I have a phone charger that can plug into my bike, but I don't feel comfortable having the wire hanging around my handlebars while I'm actually on the road. Let's say I've stopped by a gas station on road trip and I'm taking a break, If I let the bike idle for extended periods of time while the phone charges, is it doing any more damage than wasting gas?
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Just shut the bike off. I routinely leave the phone charge for an hour or so along with the Garmin plugged in.

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youll over heat your motor . it needs air passing over it and thru the rad to cool it off. if your just sitting the heat from the headers is going right to the rad and the heat from the muffler is going right up to the oil pan.. and your wasting gas. if your overly concerned about your phone staying plugged in with the bike off wire up a booster pack inline like a UPS(uninterrupted power supply) to a switch power supply. so when the bikes on its charging the booster pack and your phone and when the bikes off it charges your phone from the booster pack (and most of them can charge a phone a few times over on one charge)

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Think of your bike battery as having $1.00 in capacity.

Over time the battery wears, and in the mid-life expect $0.95 capacity.

Charging your phone from 0 % to 100 % takes about $0.05 of the capacity.

You need probably $0.20 to start the bike.

Leaving the phone charging on the bike with the bike off is a non-issue. $0.70.
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Leave the phone at home or shut it off while riding... Never text or take selfies while riding.

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Read the operation manual..it is stated there that overheating is a problem for versys.
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I use my phone for everything gps, music etc.. power port and phone ram mount plus retractable charge cable keeps things tidy.
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So the basic concensus is that I won't have any issues just leaving the battery on for an hour while the phone charges? I'm leaving on a 2 week camping trip tomorow. don't want to be stuck with a dead battery because I was charging my phone at a gas station!
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I'm not sure, but I think the alternator doesn't charge the battery if it runs at idle, so you'd discharge the battery also.

Just use a longer cable and charge your phone while riding, what is the problem?
I have it in my pocket and I have no problem.

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I'm not sure, but I think the alternator doesn't charge the battery if it runs at idle, so you'd discharge the battery also.

Just use a longer cable and charge your phone while riding, what is the problem?
I have it in my pocket and I have no problem.
I guess I just feel uncomfortable with that wire hanging around, I feel like it would get caught somewhere, I'm probably being a bit paranoid though.
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Read the operation manual..it is stated there that overheating is a problem for versys.
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From the 2017 Owner's Manual:

NOTICE. Do not let the engine idle longer than 5 minutes, or engine over-heating and damage may occur.

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charging a phone, or a tablet or a phone and table will NOT make your battery go dead.

Many nights when I am camping I will have 1 my phone, 2 my tablet, 3 my bluetooth speaker.
I plug them in when I go to bed, get up in the AM and they are all charged and ready, My bike starts just fine.
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I'm not sure, but I think the alternator doesn't charge the battery if it runs at idle, so you'd discharge the battery also.

Just use a longer cable and charge your phone while riding, what is the problem?
I have it in my pocket and I have no problem.
I charge (on long rides) things that are in my "tank-bag". Out-of-the-way, and it WORKS!

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if you're worried about it, get one of these.

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerCo...portable+power

you will get 3 or 4 phone charges out of it before it needs charging.
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I have a phone charger that can plug into my bike, but I don't feel comfortable having the wire hanging around my handlebars while I'm actually on the road. Let's say I've stopped by a gas station on road trip and I'm taking a break, If I let the bike idle for extended periods of time while the phone charges, is it doing any more damage than wasting gas?

I don't think you have anything to worry about with usb cables on the handlebars.
To give you some direction what I did was loosely wrap the cables around the clamp of my phone holder and added a twist-tie to keep them from flopping around.
I then checked the tension of the cables by turning the handle bars left and right to make sure the usb cables didn't pop out of the socket.

As for idle charging, from what i know , the stator isn't generating enough electricity to charge the battery and run electrics on the bike when the engine is at idle rpm.
i don't know the precise tipping point rpm when the stator starts making surplus electricity and it would vary depending on how many devices/switches are drawing power. My guess is probably around 3000 rpm.
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