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v or bmw r1200r

Have any of you ever ridden a bmw r1200 r would it be a bike you would trade in your v for.
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I haven't ridden an R1200R, but I would absolutely trade my Versys in for it!
Then sell it, and with the proceeds buy 2 Versysyseses.

It is a completely different price league, even if they are equally "naked". Are you considering an R1200R?
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Have any of you ever ridden a bmw r1200 r would it be a bike you would trade in your v for.
I have owned nearly every model of two wheeled Beemer made ... except the R1200R. In the flat twin category I have owned an R1100S, R1200S, R1150GS, R1200GS & R1200GSA. I would say that the state of tune of the R1200S is most closely matched to the R1200R. The Flat twin has a lot of character and tons of torque. It runs out of steam quicker than the V so flogging it is a waste of time. You just ride the torque curve to squirt out of corners and muscle your way down the straights. I really like my V but we are not in love. On the other hand, I have learned to really value a bike that tugs at my heart strings and the R platform BMW's "speak" to me. I really like the flat twin - others HATE it. For me the choice is easy and I will be making the switch back at some point soon. It is probably worth noting that the R1200R is 2-3 times more expensive than the Versys but the Versys (IMHO) is 90% as much fun to ride, has 80% as much character, and 70% as much "pride of ownership" as the Beemer. For some the math doesn't work. You'll have to ride the BMW and make the decision for yourself.

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I was actually out looking on the Web at the R1200R on the BMW website, it looks like an interesting bike but I'm not sure it's a replacement for the Versys, perhaps an augmentation to the fleet . What got me out there was I ran into an older R1150R which looked really cool, it wasn't for sale ( was at a local dealer getting serviced ) so I thought I would go out and see if they still made it. Haven't seen the R1200R for real but it looks real close the one I saw. For a replacement for the V, I would be looking at the 1200GS. The 2010 models have a slightly reworked motor with an auto exhaust bypass at 4k which, from the reviews, sounds interesting.

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If I were to go back to a BMW the R1200R would be the one. No body panels to get in the way. Lighter than the GS. For hard roads like the V. The power plant is awsome. 100+ HP is fun. But you cant beat the reliability and low maintenance cost of the V.


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Beemers all over the place at the MSTA rallies I attended. They are great machines I guess, but the owners seem interested in the Versys. Most say the same, that it looks like a fun bike. Having fun is the point, for me at least. Spending tons for owning a BMW, not so much.

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Let's see 2010 Kawasaki Versys MSRP $7,599. BMW R1200R $12,795.00. One is a 650 cc the other a 1,200, Seems like a big difference between the two.

Can they be compared?

What am I missing here?
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Ive owned the 650 GS and the 1200 GS and I liked both of them and put tons of miles on them but it was hitting my wallet to hard with the amount of riding I do. Im not sure but I thought the R1200R was well over 17000? Im not looking it up but I did see a bunch listed on cycletrader.com and I was seeing prices between 17 and 20? Anyway you cant compare the two bikes they are not in the same class. comparing them is like looking at a smart car and a 911! Somebody said that the BMW speaks to them and it speaks to the bank account both out the door and maintaining it. There is a lot of crap on the high end BMers that is not owner friendly as far as maintaining. This means your going to the dealership for most tweaks and good luck changing oil in under 2 hours. I may not replace my versys with a versys but I sure wont be owning any more BMW's.

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they,re both good

I've owned various R bikes and now have an 04 r1150r along with my Versys. The "little ' bike is an absolute hoot, specially in the tight stuff, and has drawn me away from riding the beemmer regularly, BUT.... the teutonic design; suspension, torque and various intangibles, made a recent 2100 mile adventure... epic. I've also had no maintenance issues in 30,000 miles and have ridden a friends 1200r.It is fast( as opposed to deceptively quick ), lighter, smoother and just flat out better than mine. So, as much as i want to bad mouth it (mine) and turn it into .. i don't know what( insert multi, vstrom, z1000sx).. it is a fine motorcycle. I think i'll just keep 'em both for now as they both make me smile profusely inside my helmet!! fg
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Ι had several bikes(1000cc+) in the past, so versys is not the only bike i have experience
I can tell you one thing
I you want a faster bike, get a street bike of more than 100hp(and more and more etc)

ON-off's ~1000-1200 DOESNT worth it
Is only a very little faster than a slight modified Versys(the known modifications), they are HEAVY, too big, less fun to ride, and of course they cost more to EVERYTHING

I can tell you that with my modified Versys(i thing that i have something between 65-70hp), i managed to win in straight, r1200gs, varadero 1000, super tenere 1200(that was too easy)
And off course in curve's is the driver that counts, the power of V is enough
Only the top speed is more, but dont think too much, only by 10-15km/h

In other way
Versys is too fast for a ''on-off'' 650, r1200gs is too slow for a 1200cc bike

If you want something faster than versys, get a multistrada 1200 or a tiger 1050
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Ι had several bikes(1000cc+) in the past, so versys is not the only bike i have experience
I can tell you one thing
I you want a faster bike, get a street bike of more than 100hp(and more and more etc)

ON-off's ~1000-1200 DOESNT worth it
Is only a very little faster than a slight modified Versys(the known modifications), they are HEAVY, too big, less fun to ride, and of course they cost more to EVERYTHING

I can tell you that with my modified Versys(i thing that i have something between 65-70hp), i managed to win in straight, r1200gs, varadero 1000, super tenere 1200(that was too easy)
And off course in curve's is the driver that counts, the power of V is enough
Only the top speed is more, but dont think too much, only by 10-15km/h

In other way
Versys is too fast for a ''on-off'' 650, r1200gs is too slow for a 1200cc bike

If you want something faster than versys, get a multistrada 1200 or a tiger 1050
What mods have you done to get the extra HP?
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what r we going to compare it to next.
the v is a v and a very good budget bike that can do it all and suprise a lot whilst doing so.
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What mods have you done to get the extra HP?

The usual things that many in here made

Snorkels removal
Headers+slip on
TPS adjustment
Vacuum modification
plus some other things as cams from ER6
need PCV+Autotune yet, after Christmas i will get it
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Im not sure but I thought the R1200R was well over 17000? Im not looking it up but I did see a bunch listed on cycletrader.com and I was seeing prices between 17 and 20?
Perhaps you're thinking RT, which is in that price range. The R is a naked bike (R for Roadster).

Boxers are an acquired taste (one I have never acquired) but there is something nice about an upright naked bike that you can add a windshield and bags to and rack up the miles with a smile on your face.

You know, that's what I do on a Versys.


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