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I'd save the money and do the oil change myself. I had the Galpher SS Lines put on over a year ago and really like them didn't change the brake pads then.but getting ready to do that before i go on my coast to coast and back trip coming up but when i have that done i'm going to have the throttle bodys synced and a valve clearance check.

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Those will work... First Galfer lines link is the front dual brake lines (not a 3-line OEM setup), second is the rear line.

Page 36 http://galferusa.com/catalog/


Available for less: http://www.oemcycle.com/Item/product...Vid41136083x3k

Vesrah (Japan) HH pads http://www.oemcycle.com/Products/Bra...ct=_9798_60589

Motul DOT 5.1 http://www.oemcycle.com/Item/product/900019689


Maxima ester-based synthetic blend 10W40 http://www.oemcycle.com/Item/product/900125863

Castrol synthetic blend 10W40 http://www.oemcycle.com/Item/product/900127271

Maxima 10W40 http://www.oemcycle.com/Products/Max..._4_Premium_Oil

Shell synthetic 5W40 http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ndingMethod=rr


Vesrah oil filter http://www.oemcycle.com/Item/product/900026918

Emgo oil filter http://www.oemcycle.com/Item/product/900076318
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There should be some guy that just walks into Invader's office and says "Killed it." after he posts.

+1 so true....

If the convenience of having it delivered to your door is worth $10+ to you, I guess that oil changing "kit" makes sense. I'd just go to Wally's and get the Shell Rotella full syn (better oil than that Kawi stuff> dino? semi?) and a 7317 (pick the brand) filter for around $25 total; every other time it is under $20 (you only need 2 quarts) because there is half a quart left from the previous change.

I replaced my OEM brakes with the EBC HH pads and I believe they are just as good if not better than stock pads. I am curious why you need to replace yours so soon...10K miles and they are shot? I replaced my originals at a little over 20K and they still had at least 1/4 of the pad remaining, probably more like 1/3. Perhaps, your type/style of riding requires you to work your brakes harder...or you prefer to replace your pads once they get near 50%.

As stated, the more expensive SS line is the front, the other is the rear. I get the switch to a SS line in front; any improvement in the front brakes is worth it IMO. At my buddy's shop he always asks, "Honestly, are you using the stock brakes to their fullest potential now? No? Why do you feel you need more brake power then?" The rear? I am not a big fan of a SS line in the rear unless it is just for appearance or "bling's sake?" Is there really a need more braking power from the rear brake? Personally, I think rear brake is fine stock. For many (less than very experienced) riders, a more powerful rear brake presents more problems than solutions, IME.

As far as the 10K check...I'd also have a look at the air filter about now...it just might need a cleaning and servicing...


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You guys are super helpful, as usual, thanks invader, weljo, and rocky.

Rocky, I was going to replace the stock brakes because they're squeaking a bit and I was under the impression that this meant it was almost time for new pads. I don't know how the guy before me rode it but I purchase the bike with 6k miles on it and did nearly 4k myself in the 6 weeks I had it last summer.

As for the steel lines... I won't be doing the back, I just couldn't tell the difference but these guys cleared it up for me. I was hoping the front was the less expensive one

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All the stuff mentioned in my first post has now been installed, along with new Progrips and Pazzo levers. I have steel braided Galfer lines to install, and I'm waiting for the Vesrah RJL front brake pads. I'll have to get some pictures...
Instead of cutting the kickstand, I purchased a used one from a ninja 650 off ebay. It's about an inch shorter and works perfectly with the lowering link/raised forks. I like the way it works better, too, in that it has a longer piece sticking out to deploy it, not the short little stem on the Versys stock one.

I have the Givi V46 topcase. I didn't order it with the brake light kit, but am now thinking of adding it, or the one from Admore. I saw the great write up from I think CapnKirk who designed his own, but I'm not great with wiring, so I think I'll stick with a pre-made kit. Thoughts as to the choice between Givi and Admore...ease of installation, functionality?
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BY the way I upgraded to braided brake lines on my MT-01 and didnt notice a big difference...just in case some are expecting a lot from the upgrade it doesn't make a world of difference...
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BY the way I upgraded to braided brake lines on my MT-01 and didnt notice a big difference...just in case some are expecting a lot from the upgrade it doesn't make a world of difference...
My experience is different. I installed Venhill steel braided brake lines, and I feel the bike stop faster and the brake lever feels crisper, not as spongy.

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BY the way I upgraded to braided brake lines on my MT-01 and didnt notice a big difference...just in case some are expecting a lot from the upgrade it doesn't make a world of difference...

I put Galpher SS Brake Line on my Versys noticed a slight better than stock on the rear and a much better than stock on the front. Just put Vesrah brake pads on and it feels great on both ends.

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Yeah I must say my 6 piston front brakes were already pretty good, thats possibly why the difference with braided line wasnt substancial...
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ok, here's some pics I took today. Givi bags, more pics of those in the thread about bags. Pyramid hugger. Speedy's lowering link. Kawi low gel seat. MRA windscreen, Galfer steel braided lines with a banjo bleeder at the MC, Denali lights with the SW mototech mounting brackets, SW mototech crash bars, progrip grips. R&G tailtidy.
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Put on more break-in miles yesterday. The more I ride this bike, the better I like it. I have to admit, I wasn't enthralled the first couple of rides, having been used to high-tech sportbikes with many aftermarket improvements. The addition of the stainless front lines and Vesrah RJL pads have made the brakes acceptable. And yesterday I got to go find some twisty roads and I like the way the Versys handles. It's pretty darned good for a non-sportbike. And the seating position will be all-day comfortable. Not telling you guys anything you don't know, I'm sure. Now to start planning some long rides. Hmmm....haven't been up to VT in awhile, and I'm out of maple syrup!
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I just replaced the stocks pads after 15,000 miles for vesrah brake pads and the differance is night and day.
I also replaced the crappy stock pads with Vesrah RJLs. Only I did it before I even had 100 miles on the bike. Put on steel braided lines, too. Made the brakes much better. Coming from sportbikes with the latest and greatest brakes, I couldn't stand the Versys' brakes. Now they're quite tolerable!
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Tried EBC HH but Versah is better. Try the Sintered Metal Pad one.
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Hah... Good to hear about the obvious improvement with Vesrah pads... I had already put Vesrah pads on my new Versys for some reason, without ever trying the stock Tokico pads which are also HH but of a visibly very different compound.

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Vesrah also has racing brake pads available in RJL, SRJL 17, and SRJL 8 compounds, as listed for EX-650 (#VD-354).

http://www.vesrah.com/new_page_56.htm

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I like my Motul DOT 5.1 brake fluid as well, by the way.

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Galfer. Two line setup, one line from the master to each caliper with no T-junction. I ordered from solomotoparts.com because they have the color selection available and I wanted black lines. I have a '13, but the lines and pads they list for the '08-'10 fit. So do the Pazzo levers, I put those on, too!

I also had a double banjo bolt laying around that has a bleeder on it. Very helpful to also be able to bleed at the MC as well as the calipers. I forget where I purchased it, it was many years ago, but they're probably still around somewhere.
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Vesrah also has racing brake pads available in RJL, SRJL 17, and SRJL 8 compounds, as listed for EX-650 (#VD-354).

http://www.vesrah.com/new_page_56.htm

http://www.vesrah.com/new_page_42.htm

I like my Motul DOT 5.1 brake fluid as well, by the way.

http://www.motul.com/ca/en-US/products/77
Yes, I went with the RJLs. I got them from street and comp:
Right caliper http://www.streetandcomp.com/store/i...352RJL&eq=&Tp=

Left caliper http://www.streetandcomp.com/store/i...435RJL&eq=&Tp=

I've been using the RJLs for quite some time on my trackbike and have been happy with the performance, so I wanted the RJLs over Vesrah's other sintered pads.

The Motul DOT5.1 is good stuff. I put in the Motul 600RBF. Normally I don't use that in my street bikes, but the bottle was opened from doing the trackbike.
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Galfer. Two line setup, one line from the master to each caliper with no T-junction. I ordered from solomotoparts.com because they have the color selection available and I wanted black lines. I have a '13, but the lines and pads they list for the '08-'10 fit. So do the Pazzo levers, I put those on, too!

I also had a double banjo bolt laying around that has a bleeder on it. Very helpful to also be able to bleed at the MC as well as the calipers. I forget where I purchased it, it was many years ago, but they're probably still around somewhere.
I have the black Galfer lines also (two line setup, no cross-line or "T"), and am very satisfied with them....love the ample "wave" in the rear line as well...got them from podiumsuperbikeinc on eBay. Pads are next.
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Tweaking the front suspension also seemed to help braking, and handling too. I'm 190lb with gear and increased damping to 1.5 turns from max and preload to 6 turns from max. Still experimenting with this but the slight increase helped reduce front dive and front/rear pogoing while braking.

I did this on the advice of my shop after I mentioned how fast my front tires were wearing.
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