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Many much confusion over OEM oil filters...

It was time to change the Black Pearl (2016 650 LT)'s oil at 575 miles. For once the Gods of Motorcycle Parts were gonna smile in my favor, since I have a case of OEM part number 16097-0008s for my ZX14 on hand, and based on a little research, hey! presto I have a lifetime supply of filters for both bikes since the number is the same.

However, I decided to temp the Gods, and ordered a couple of filters from an eBay seller, and got OEM Kawasaki 16097-0004s from eBay.

The sellers ad claims that oil filter WR-304s, 16097-0004s, 16097-0008s, and 16097-1064s and these 16097-0004s are all the same thing. and cross reference to each other. (URL: Oil Filter Kawasaki Genuine WR 304 16097 0004 16097 0008 16097 1063 16097 1064 | eBay)

When I got to the oil-splashed filter off (don't ask, yes, it was messy, and yes I made a horrible mess) I removed a filter that showed part number 16097-0552 from The Pearl's engine.

I looked at the 0004s I got from the seller, and it looked the same externally, and spun right on like it was made for the Pearl.

However, I'm now confused at all the numbers:
Are all these numbers truly the same thing? I'm just a lowly shade tree mechanic and am wondering if Ye Olde Woole is being pulled over my eyes or if I should worry about more important stuff like global cooling?
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Can't answer your (GOOD) question, but I've always bought filters for my two Gen 1s, and my Gen 3, at Walmart, to go w/ the Mobil1 15w-50 oil I buy there, TOO, in 5 qt. containers!

BTW - OVER 120,000 miles among the three Vs....

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Can't help Ya. I've had the same filter since 2010 on 3 different bikes now.....


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Can't help Ya. I've had the same filter since 2010 on 3 different bikes now.....


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Hey Joe, went to their site, no listing for the 2015, another site on Ebay came up with not compatible. I get my filters from the dealer for $12, prices I have seen for the stainless one are around $116 USD plus shipping, that is about 12 oil changes for me. Possibly you could shed some light on this. Motorcycle Super store stops at 2012 Versys, sku is 180131 as you have in your picture, not sure why no listings for newer models.What concerns me is one site listed the 2015 650 ABS but it came up not compatible when searching PC Flo .

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Hey Joe, went to their site, no listing for the 2015, another site on Ebay came up with not compatible. I get my filters from the dealer for $12, prices I have seen for the stainless one are around $116 USD plus shipping, that is about 12 oil changes for me. Possibly you could shed some light on this. Motorcycle Super store stops at 2012 Versys, sku is 180131 as you have in your picture, not sure why no listings for newer models.What concerns me is one site listed the 2015 650 ABS but it came up not compatible when searching PC Flo .


Go to Amazon for the best price about $90.00 i believe.....Heres the info you need for fitment.....Kawasaki Street PCS1
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I haven't found anything official about it (still looking), but based on what I've found so far, it seems like the 16097-0004 (made in Japan) was discontinued, and replaced by the 16097-0008 (made in China).
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Yeah, that's what I found some references to as well.


still doesn't explain the 16097-0552 filter I pulled off when I changed the oil for the first time. Weird, weird, weird.
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I just use Fram filters, yeah I've heard all the supposed horror stories and I've torn filters apart. Fram is as good as any of the filters made and I've used them in all kinds of equipment most of my life and I'm no youngster.

I just bought oil for my 2015's first change and got Mobil 1 20-50 full synthetic motorcycle oil. I could have bought the oil and filter to change my wife's EDGE or two oil changes on the Vulcan for what those two quarts cost me (CArQuest). I think the next time it will be Rotella synthetic from Wal Mart.
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16097-0552 is the OEM oil filter made in Thailand, which is originally installed on some Kawasaki motorcycles made in Thailand.
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Yeah, that's what I found some references to as well.


still doesn't explain the 16097-0552 filter I pulled off when I changed the oil for the first time. Weird, weird, weird.
If you still have it, check to see if it states where it was manufactured. I've seen a few references indicating that 16097-0552 appears if it was manufactured in or imported from Thailand, and it seems to be cross-referenced to the 16097-0008 and/or 16097-0004.

Edit: D'oh! Looks like Invader beat me to it.

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From doing some research when I had to do my first oil change, it looks like Kawasaki recently changed part numbers on their filters. The stock filter I took off my '16 650 was the 16097-0552, which is the new part number. So maybe what you got was the older part number. But I ended up using a Mobil 1 M1-108 along with Mobil 1 4T oil.
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If all else fails, go to NAPA and ask for filter 1365. It's all I have ever used going on 30k. not complicated.
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I just changed oil and filter the other day (1000 mile service) and the OEM filter said "Made in Thailand".
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I am getting ready to do my first oil change on my 2015 v650 and have the 16047-0008 filter (bought as a pair from Amazon for $24 delivered to the house with Amazon Prime).

I am planning to buy an end-cap oil filter wrench. What size fits these? Any help appreciated.

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...I am planning to buy an end-cap oil filter wrench. What size fits these? Any help appreciated.
Take one of your filters w/ you to a place that sells the filter wrenches, and get whichever fits it!
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I just bought oil for my 2015's first change and got Mobil 1 20-50 full synthetic motorcycle oil. I could have bought the oil and filter to change my wife's EDGE or two oil changes on the Vulcan for what those two quarts cost me (CArQuest). I think the next time it will be Rotella synthetic from Wal Mart.
30K+ miles here on only Rotella, and my V runs great. I get 2 oil changes out of a big jug, and if I buy it at the right time the jug costs less then $20 for synthetic.

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30K+ miles here on only Rotella, and my V runs great. I get 2 oil changes out of a big jug, and if I buy it at the right time the jug costs less then $20 for synthetic.

Is the jug marked "synthetic"?
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Is the jug marked "synthetic"?
The T6 is in a blue jug, and is synthetic
The T5 is in the silver jug, and is synthetic blend
The T4 in in the white jug, and is conventional oil

I have used both the silver, and blue jugs depending on what is in stock. I just went on Walmart's site, and it showed the synthetic as $92 a gallon. I can assure you I would have never paid that, and have a jug of it in the garage waiting on the next change.

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