SW-MOTECH Centerstands - Kawasaki Versys Forum
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-06-2016, 06:26 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Lovely, Metropolitan North Idaho
Posts: 336
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Red face SW-MOTECH Centerstands

I was reading a closed thread entitled "BEWARE SW-MOTECH Centerstands".

I couraged up and ordered one anyway for my 2016 650 Versys, and it went on fine (other than my buggering some screw heads from a snapped hex head socket head, my fault) and I see no sign of the clearance issues from the original poster. I have a sneaking hunch that the OP of that thread may have put a Gen 2 on a Gen 3 bike or vice versa. [warning: I've been wrong before so this is just my .02.)

The centerstand works great, and other than the cost which did sour my milk for a week or so, it works very well.

my .02.
aboyandhisversys is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-06-2016, 08:13 PM
Member
 
steve1503's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Salem, NH
Posts: 92
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Garage
Will never KNOW what the problem was, but on my 2015, there is no problem with the center stand.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
steve1503 is online now  
post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-07-2016, 11:25 AM
Member
 
Doug Just Doug's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Newark, Delaware
Posts: 449
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
The interference issue was posted on webBikeWorld's review after they installed it on a 2015 (there's a video of it, too). Also, this is what is says (just checked so it's still there) on on SW-Motech's site for the 2015-2016 Versys center stand: "Please note. The bikes side stand must be temporarily folded out in order to park the motorcycle on the centerstand or fold in the centerstand." So there was indeed some sort of issue, but from your reports obviously not everyone has had the interference. I returned the SW-Motech stand I purchased (but hadn't yet installed) after I learned of the problem some were reporting. Now I have a Hepco-Becker stand waiting to be installed.
Doug Just Doug is offline  
 
post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-07-2016, 12:50 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Vancouver Island BC
Posts: 96
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Let me get this.... bike's on the side stand, roll it up on the center stand, put up side stand (or leave it down). To get bike off center stand - side stand must be down. So no more riding off the center stand I guess. I would imagine it's possible to take the bike off the center stand and have the already down side stand come down on your foot, or hit uneven ground and tip to the right. Can the bike be taken off the center stand with the side stand about half down or less? H-B does seem the better choice. Good information for Gen 3 owners.

....ride like the one-eyed Jack of Diamonds with the Devil close behind...
"The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility, it's right. If it disturbs you, it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed."
-Robert M. Pirsig
bcalan is offline  
post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-07-2016, 02:18 PM
Member
 
Doug Just Doug's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Newark, Delaware
Posts: 449
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by bcalan View Post
Let me get this.... bike's on the side stand, roll it up on the center stand, put up side stand (or leave it down). To get bike off center stand - side stand must be down. So no more riding off the center stand I guess. I would imagine it's possible to take the bike off the center stand and have the already down side stand come down on your foot, or hit uneven ground and tip to the right. Can the bike be taken off the center stand with the side stand about half down or less? H-B does seem the better choice. Good information for Gen 3 owners.
Yup. If an owner uses it mostly just for maintenance or storage, it wouldn't be a big issue, but for folks like me who use a center stand every time his bike is parked (incl. gas fill-ups) unless it's on soft or crazy uneven ground, the interference issue would be a huge PITA. The wBW editor told me that the SWM shouldn't be considered a "ride-off" stand. What's weird is that it apparently doesn't interfere on everyone's Gen 3, which may indicate a supply, manufacturing, or installation variance.
Doug Just Doug is offline  
post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-07-2016, 02:27 PM
Member
 
steve1503's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Salem, NH
Posts: 92
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by bcalan View Post
Let me get this.... bike's on the side stand, roll it up on the center stand, put up side stand (or leave it down). To get bike off center stand - side stand must be down. So no more riding off the center stand I guess. I would imagine it's possible to take the bike off the center stand and have the already down side stand come down on your foot, or hit uneven ground and tip to the right. Can the bike be taken off the center stand with the side stand about half down or less? H-B does seem the better choice. Good information for Gen 3 owners.
If you take the bike down off the center stand with the side stand up, the center stand rests on the side stand. It only takes a tap on the side stand to get the center stand back to it's correct resting place.
There is no riding off the center stand though.
The poster from the closed post was stating the drive chain was rubbing on the center stand brackets, not really addressing the side/center stand interference.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
steve1503 is online now  
post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-08-2016, 07:46 AM
Member
 
bwwoodard's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Owensboro, KY (home of the racing Haydens)
Posts: 200
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
I think the key to success is: 1) Buy the correct center stand for your year model Versys, 2) maintain the drive chain per OEM specs.

For more info, go back and read through that "closed thread". You'll notice a lot of things that don't seem to add up....Why were there no photos that showed an alledged area with markings of contact (chain to bracket)? The photos showed adequate clearance. Why report a problem without reviewing all variables? I think I recall OP listed the chain at 3" slack....well outside spec. Why not respond to Twisted Throttle, who proactively reached out (within the thread), to accumulate substantial data that we could all gain from?

Several things didn't add up to me. I have one mounted to my bike, and supplied my feedback there (I won't duplucate the info here), though my conclusion is to properly maintain chain slack.

Quote:
Originally Posted by aboyandhisversys View Post
I was reading a closed thread entitled "BEWARE SW-MOTECH Centerstands".

I couraged up and ordered one anyway for my 2016 650 Versys, and it went on fine (other than my buggering some screw heads from a snapped hex head socket head, my fault) and I see no sign of the clearance issues from the original poster. I have a sneaking hunch that the OP of that thread may have put a Gen 2 on a Gen 3 bike or vice versa. [warning: I've been wrong before so this is just my .02.)

The centerstand works great, and other than the cost which did sour my milk for a week or so, it works very well.

my .02.
bwwoodard is offline  
post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-08-2016, 07:53 AM
Member
 
Doug Just Doug's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Newark, Delaware
Posts: 449
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Oh...I see now that we're talking about two different issues. I wasn't aware of the (alleged) chain interference issue; I was addressing the side stand interference issue.
Doug Just Doug is offline  
post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-21-2016, 10:27 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Park City, Utah
Posts: 12
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
I have a '15 Versys 650 LT. The center stand from SW- Motech interferes with the side stand as noted by others. If the side stand is up before raising the center stand, the center stand will not retract fully. One time, I noticed the center stand dragging on the asphalt during a turn because I forgot to retract the side stand after the center stand. I believe this to be dangerous, so i posted a review on SW-Motech. My review was removed soon after posting by SW_Motech or a third party that manages the review site. I received a courtesy call from SW. The caller informed me the review was removed because it contained liability implications. I was also reminded by the SW tech that their site notes the interference may occur between the two stands.
Wynstonn is offline  
post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-22-2016, 07:04 AM
Member
 
bwwoodard's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Owensboro, KY (home of the racing Haydens)
Posts: 200
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
While this "interference" may not be the norm for OEM centerstands, it is not uncommon in the realm of aftermarket centerstands. From the bikes that I've owned, which didn't come OEM with a centerdstand, I have been well aware of this potential on the ones that were affected (Versys & KLR650).

To make the centerstand base more narrow (to prevent said interference) would decrease stability while on the c-stand and also potentially make it more awkward for the operator to reach the centerstand base with their toe while engaging the stand and preparing for lift. My SV650 was this way, meaning that it had a narrow base. It was a challenege to engage the c-stand, to apply pressure to keep the c-stand in contact with the ground, and to awkwardly lift the bike (without tipping side-to-side)in the process.

It sounds as if the key issue is communication. I haven't seen the 2015 installation instructions. It would seem appropriate to include this charecteristic (order of engagement/disengagement) within the installation/operating instructions. If already there, then may be an oversight in catching this step. If not there, it needs to be.

From years of owning/operating aftermarket c-stands (with this charesceristic), I quickly got used to it and it's been a non-issue for me. For me, the conveniences of having the c-stand far outweigh the the slight inconvenience of remembering the prescribed order.

OP- I hope you adjust and do enjoy the use of your stand.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynstonn View Post
.... The center stand from SW- Motech interferes with the side stand as noted by others. If the side stand is up before raising the center stand, the center stand will not retract fully. .... I received a courtesy call from SW. The caller informed me the review was removed because it contained liability implications. I was also reminded by the SW tech that their site notes the interference may occur between the two stands.
bwwoodard is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Tags
sw-motech center stand

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Kawasaki Versys Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome