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15 Versys 650 downshifting from 6th to pass

This is probably a stupid question, but I'm pretty new to motorcycling. When I'm cruising on the highway at 100km/h in 6th and I need to pass someone, what rpms should I have the engine at if I downshift to 5th in order to avoid issues with the rear wheel locking up? I've personally never had that happen, but I keep reading about the potential for it to happen and it's making me nervous to downshift at too high a speed.
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Gear ratios: 1st 2.438
Gear ratios: 2nd 1.714
Gear ratios: 3rd 1.333
Gear ratios: 4th 1.111
Gear ratios: 5th 0.966
Gear ratios: 6th 0.852

There's barely a difference. Downshift 6 to 5 whenever you want to. Don't fret about it.
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Gear ratios: 1st 2.438
Gear ratios: 2nd 1.714
Gear ratios: 3rd 1.333
Gear ratios: 4th 1.111
Gear ratios: 5th 0.966
Gear ratios: 6th 0.852

There's barely a difference. Downshift 6 to 5 whenever you want to. Don't fret about it.
Awesome, thanks!
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If y do it right locking the rear wheel isn't an issue. You should practice Rev matching on downshifts (look it up on YouTube ). Slipping the clutch a bit as you let the lever out helps too.
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This is probably a stupid question, but I'm pretty new to motorcycling. When I'm cruising on the highway at 100km/h in 6th and I need to pass someone, what rpms should I have the engine at if I downshift to 5th in order to avoid issues with the rear wheel locking up? I've personally never had that happen, but I keep reading about the potential for it to happen and it's making me nervous to downshift at too high a speed.
It's something you don't think about consciously. With practice you'll get smooth downshifts. Downshifting and upshifting is always smoother in the higher gears.

When upshifting, preload the shift lever with light pressure from your foot. As you bring in the clutch just a bit, you'll find the bike will effortlessly slip into the next gear instantly. Note the shift lever needs to return to center between shifts to reset itself.

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If y do it right locking the rear wheel isn't an issue. You should practice Rev matching on downshifts (look it up on YouTube ). Slipping the clutch a bit as you let the lever out helps too.
Yeah, I always blip the throttle when downshifting, seems to work pretty well.
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It's something you don't think about consciously. With practice you'll get smooth downshifts. Downshifting and upshifting is always smoother in the higher gears.

When upshifting, preload the shift lever with light pressure from your foot. As you bring in the clutch just a bit, you'll find the bike will effortlessly slip into the next gear instantly. Note the shift lever needs to return to center between shifts to reset itself.
I'll give that a shot. I've noticed that it occasionally clunks when shifting up.
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This is probably a stupid question, but I'm pretty new to motorcycling. When I'm cruising on the highway at 100km/h in 6th and I need to pass someone, what rpms should I have the engine at if I downshift to 5th in order to avoid issues with the rear wheel locking up? I've personally never had that happen, but I keep reading about the potential for it to happen and it's making me nervous to downshift at too high a speed.
The "rear wheel locking up" happens when you're braking, slowing down, shifting down, w/ your RPMs at idle.

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The "rear wheel locking up" happens when you're braking, slowing down, shifting down, w/ your RPMs at idle.
So as long as I blip the throttle right before I release the clutch, I should be OK?
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The "rear wheel locking up" happens when you're braking, slowing down, shifting down, w/ your RPMs at idle.
Exactly this!

I did that coming home yesterday. It was only for a second, a quick squeal, but I wasn't on the throttle and wasn't counting shifts, went to 1st while off the throttle and braking. Oops
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