The trouble with Erik and Czysz both is that they try to go to far to fast with inadequate funding. They both have far out ideas that need to be explored but in order to make money you first have to build something that you know will both work and sell. I think they both just build for themselves. It is the same when we farkle our bikes, that personalizes them exactly the way we want but when we go to sell we find it isn't many others peoples cup of tea so we either remove everything and sell them separately or take a big loss. Firstly, designing, creating, and selling a new sport bike is probably the hardest motorcycle to do, the big factories have too large a head start, I was amazed that even BMW was able to do it straight out of the box.