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Civilian riding on millitary base?

Does anyone know what the rule is on a civilian working on a military base riding to work?


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Does a civilian require a special class to ride on a military base? Or is just military that require the class to ride on a base?

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Does a civilian require a special class to ride on a military base? Or is just military that require the class to ride on a base?
Probably best to check with the Military Police at the specific Installation. Are you working at the installation or passing through (might make a difference)? Each base may enforce the rules a little differently.
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Angst,

Here on Ft. Sill, Ok we have the same requirements as active duty military - safety gear, motorcyle endorsement, MSF Basic Rider Course card and post registration. When registering the bike on post you will need to show drivers license, insurance verification, state registration - pretty much what you would provide to register your car on post. I can only address Ft. Sill requirements but they should mirror all DOD installations. Hope this helps.

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Thanks Sparky . . .

I appreciate your input. I will check with the base in question.

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Does anyone know what the rule is on a civilian working on a military base riding to work?

In the past, there may be registration required, since people used to have/need base stickers with expiring years on them. Currently, with the advent of the Common Access Card (CAC), one just shows the guard at the gate the CAC and you'll be waved through. I've done this on five bases so far, and my home base is Kirtland AFB. Note that the guards are now required to physically touch the bare card. So you need to pull it out of any plastic sleeve/badge pouch for them. In the near future, in addition, they'll have handheld scanners to read the card.

When you process in, there should be a local base/squad motorcycle saftey officer that will give you a set of brieging charts that show safety and clothing/helmet requirements. As mentioned before, these are standard DoD stuff that applies universally. As far as I know, there is no requirement to have a MSF certification for civilians. But their experience riders course seems to be pretty good. It doesn't hurt to take it.

As they say, an armed society is a polite society. Just ride at speed limit on base and you're golden. The SPs don't bother you unless you get squidly. In Albuquerque, I ride on base for most of my stretch of commute just to avoid the crazies on the surface streets outside.

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Angst,

Here on Ft. Sill, Ok we have the same requirements as active duty military - safety gear, motorcyle endorsement, MSF Basic Rider Course card and post registration. When registering the bike on post you will need to show drivers license, insurance verification, state registration - pretty much what you would provide to register your car on post. I can only address Ft. Sill requirements but they should mirror all DOD installations. Hope this helps.

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Additionally, I think that the military also requires a high vis mil spec vest to be worn at all times. I see guys on bikes heading out to Lemoore NAS with them on all the time.
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Additionally, I think that the military also requires a high vis mil spec vest to be worn at all times. I see guys on bikes heading out to Lemoore NAS with them on all the time.
Actually, no. DoD spec just requires some form of hi-viz clothing while on the bike. The commerical hi-viz vest (a la Icon) happens to be convenient. I wear my 'Stich or Motoport gear with minimal reflective stripes. The BDUs that the service people wear have no hi-viz patches at all. So they usually wear the Icon type vest or just a mesh crossing guard stuff. One sargent juast wraps some hi-viz tape aroung his backpack, and he wears the backpack on his bike at all times.

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Actually, no. DoD spec just requires some form of hi-viz clothing while on the bike. The commerical hi-viz vest (a la Icon) happens to be convenient. I wear my 'Stich or Motoport gear with minimal reflective stripes. The BDUs that the service people wear have no hi-viz patches at all. So they usually wear the Icon type vest or just a mesh crossing guard stuff. One sargent juast wraps some hi-viz tape aroung his backpack, and he wears the backpack on his bike at all times.

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Ahh- thanks for the correction. I assumed that this was the case since I observed so many heading that way with the vests on. I am not in the military so I have actually never rode on base with my bike. Thanks for the heads up.
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Another thing, if you have a license and are a civilian you'll most likely be good to go (still have to wear some type of reflector vest). Though if they require you to have the MSF course, then most likely they can pay for it too. I received my motorcycle endorsement while in the military and because they required the course, they paid for it.

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