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Please talk me out of this

So I have this condition where I browse ads for things I don't really need. It's just for fun and pretty benign, usually.
But I found something toady and can't get it out of my head:

An ad for KTM 950 Super Enduro R with very low mileage and for insanely low price. It's been on sale for a while and owner is desperate for money but in this economy no one can afford that kind of toy.

I'm very, very happy with my Versys witch is just right for me. I ride just under a year now and have done just under 10k Km in that time. I mostly ride asphalt roads and enjoy long distance touring. I've spent a whole year and a bit of money acquiring farkles and setting the bike the way I want. I like that it's cheep and easy to fix and work on. I planned to keep it indefinitely.

So why did I catch this bug? Why do I want this enduro monster?

Here are some more 'cons':
- I'm not sure if my experience level is high enough for a 100hP/1000cc bike
- I've never ridden a bike with knobby tires
- I can barely afford it and the cost of registration for 1000cc bike is extremely high here
- KTMs are notoriously fiddly and expensive to work on
- this bike is bone-stock. Accessories for KTMs cost arm and a leg
- What would I do with the Versys? Not easy to sell bikes these days...


Thing is, I can rationalize my way around all of this.
Could you, please, try to talk some sense into me.


Cheers.

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Just go for it !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That was going to be my bike before I decided on a Versys. After I rode one I just lost interest. It is a big heavy bike. Great power but it seemed like overkill for what I would use it for. Now if I could have both I would go for it but I wouldn't have it over the V.

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There are people looking to buy a V, even in this economy. I'm one of those people.
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Not many dealers.
Takes forever to get parts.
Insurance is HIGH.
You will have the same trouble if/when you try to sell.
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If you've never seriously ridden dirt, get a cheap Japanese trailie or light dualsport (depending on your ability to transport a bike to the dirt parks). It'll cost a lot less, you won't care about crashing it, and you'll have a lot more fun with a lighter, less powerful, more manageable, less maintenance-greedy dirt bike.

Bonus - that will let you enjoy your V even more as an ADV bike.
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Not many dealers.
Takes forever to get parts.
Insurance is HIGH.
You will have the same trouble if/when you try to sell.
The first two items are not true here. Not sure if that's true where the OP lives. As for the third item, who's your insurance carrier? Fourth item is not true here, but maybe different there. I ride with several guys who have these or the 990 successor, and I can tell you it's a storming bike! I know from the bruises on my chest received by riding behind them offroad!

Ivan, are you really going to use the 950 for what it's designed for? If you mostly ride on road, it's kind of a waste. Maybe RGal's advice would be a better way to start.

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Anytime I see the words "I can barely afford it" I say no go. Don't do it, you're asking for trouble. You've got plenty of time to enjoy your Versys and there will always be another crazy and more crazy bikes and deals in your future.
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Remember the above when it comes to KTM!!!!

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I have a wife and two and kids. One of my kids is in college and I have a mortgage. I have a very stressfull and demanding job that leave with very little leisure time. Do I want to pick up and go out with the hot blonde that looks and dresses like a super model flirting at me in the bar? Yes, I surely want. Does it make sense?

I might not have the experience to handle her
She have a taste I cannot afford
I might not have the time she will demand from me
I might like her so much that can be tempted to leave what I have to go after her
In the end she can ditch me and leave me with:

A mortgage and no place to live.
Broke with no money to spend in anything I like
Lonely with no one to spend whatever little time I have

If you have so many things to think about before going after something you do not need, maybe is not such a good idea.
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I have a wife and two and kids. One of my kids is in college and I have a mortgage. I have a very stressfull and demanding job that leave with very little leisure time. Do I want to pick up and go out with the hot blonde that looks and dresses like a super model flirting at me in the bar? Yes, I surely want. Does it make sense?

I might not have the experience to handle her
She have a taste I cannot afford
I might not have the time she will demand from me
I might like her so much that can be tempted to leave what I have to go after her
In the end she can ditch me and leave me with:

A mortgage and no place to live.
Broke with no money to spend in anything I like
Lonely with no one to spend whatever little time I have

If you have so many things to think about before going after something you do not need, maybe is not such a good idea.
Boricua, that is very good advice and well said. was thinking of getting a Busa the same way but it is just like the blonde in the bar
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Kraut
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Machine

and also

Keep
Tinkering
Man

and

Keep
The
Motor


Seriously, for your level of experience and for what you would probably use it for...AND given the cons you already brought up, a DRZ400 would be a very nice place to start. They are tons of fun and after 3 or 4 hours of riding one, you won't feel near as whipped as you will on the KTM.
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Anytime I see the words "I can barely afford it" I say no go. Don't do it, you're asking for trouble. You've got plenty of time to enjoy your Versys and there will always be another crazy and more crazy bikes and deals in your future.
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- I've never ridden a bike with knobby tires

Get a dirt bike first.
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X2. Don't buy a fifteen thousand dollar race bike when you've never even ridden a dirtbike. That's just insane.

That bike has crossed my mind however. I've got a 100 times as more dirt time as I do road time. The big trailie from KTM is a killer bike, IMHO.

I've owned KTM motorcycles since before they were KTMs. Back from when John Penton put his name on them when they came to America. My first brand new one was 1973.

I put lights on mine and a plate and road it to high school. One of the first modern dual sports. BTW, we didn't have the name for them back then...dual sport. They were just 'dirtbikes'.


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I have a wife and two and kids. One of my kids is in college and I have a mortgage. I have a very stressfull and demanding job that leave with very little leisure time. Do I want to pick up and go out with the hot blonde that looks and dresses like a super model flirting at me in the bar? Yes, I surely want. Does it make sense?

I might not have the experience to handle her
She have a taste I cannot afford
I might not have the time she will demand from me
I might like her so much that can be tempted to leave what I have to go after her
In the end she can ditch me and leave me with:

A mortgage and no place to live.
Broke with no money to spend in anything I like
Lonely with no one to spend whatever little time I have

If you have so many things to think about before going after something you do not need, maybe is not such a good idea.
good advise.
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Cheers guys!
That's exactly what I needed to hear.

You've all, individually, hit the nail on the head.
I've read all this last night and had a good night sleep and now it's all better.

I especially liked the analogy with the blonde super-model.
One should know his limits. For now
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Yep Ivan, the blonde super model is a very good analogy and may apply that train of thought to a most things that are wants and not needs but still have a urge to own a Busa but not at this stage lol
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Yep Ivan, the blonde super model is a very good analogy and may apply that train of thought to a most things that are wants and not needs but still have a urge to own a Busa but not at this stage lol
Do you have any straight roads down there to ride it on?

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Sounds like a challenge to me!

Now I have four!
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