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Bike vs. cage in Ottawa

I don't like seeing these. My wife REALLY hates seeing these. From today's Ottawa Sun:

http://www.ottawasun.com/news/ottawa.../14999061.html

I think I'm going to go a little slower on the way home today after reading this. Ride safe everyone!

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Sad, a tragedy for sure.

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I'll probably hear something from my wife tonight as well.

There's a light at that intersection, though. I don't understand how the SUV driver was turning left in that intersection from Parkdale onto Scott (turning West) if the rider was also going through the intersection heading East on Scott. One of them had to have the red light. If the SUV driver has charges pending, I suspect he either ran the red ("floored it on the yellow", which is a bad habit for a lot of people around here), or jumped early for a green light. Either way, it was bad news for the rider.

It just underscores how vulnerable we are. My thought and prayers are with the rider and his family.

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Rider was going eastbound on Scott; SUV was going westbound on Scott and turned left onto Parkway (apparently in front of the Rider). The rider "t-boned" the SUV.

David Hough, author of "Proficient Motorcycling," says that around 40% of fatal moto accidents are caused by vehicles turning left in front of motorcycles. The rate is so high that I assume every vehicle setting up for a turn in front of me, will do so; and I prepare to defend myself: slow down, cover the brakes, watch the front wheel of the vehicle.

One of the downsides of something that's so much fun to use....
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Rider was going eastbound on Scott; SUV was going westbound on Scott and turned left onto Parkway (apparently in front of the Rider). The rider "t-boned" the SUV.
I mis-read the article. I guess the SUV driver didn't see the bike.

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Just saw this on the AMA sitehappened Aug 6)
An Indianapolis police officer who crashed into two motorcycles, killing one rider and injuring two others, has been charged with seven felony counts of drunk driving and reckless homicide.

Motorcyclist Eric Wells, 30, was killed in the crash. Kurt Weekly, 44, was critically injured and Mary Mills, 47, was hospitalized in fair condition.

Indianapolis Police Chief Paul Ciesielski said tests showed that the officer, David Bisard, had a blood-alcohol level of 0.19 percent at the time of the crash, which happened at about 11:20 a.m. on Aug. 6. A driver is considered legally drunk in Indiana with a blood-alcohol level of 0.08 percent.

Bisard reportedly was responding to a request for help on a felony warrant at the time of the crash. He faces up to 20 years in prison if convicted of the most serious charge.

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Did not see or did not care. Have been around wrecks like that and the cager said they thought they could make it. When asked if they would do the same if it was car, they said no, bikes are smaller then cars.

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Scott and Parkdale is a horrible intersection. Always very busy with all the government buildings and its proximity to the down town core. This is a horrible situation for all involved. I have been riding in this area for 30 plus years and I don’t think anyone should be speculating as to whether the SUV driver cared? I am sure everyone on this site drives a vehicle larger than their Versys? When not on my Versys, I drive a full size truck and I am always looking out for smaller vehicles and bikes. Ottawa is a city with thousands of Motorcyclists and Cyclists and I believe the vast majority of drivers are sharing the road much better than a decade ago. My thought and prayers are with everyone involved. “Innocent until proven guilty”

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Don't want to start a debate on it (helmet), but last night on the news, they said that he died of massive head injuries
Was he wearing a "proper" helmet or a simple beanie

Intersection should be banned
In reality, it's their that the worst can happen !

I would not mind much having a low or even a hign side at almost any speed
But being cut or side swap on an intersection is one of my worst fear

And btw, my sympathy for the family, of course

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My thoughts and prayers are with the rider and his family.
May he RIP.
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Don't want to start a debate on it (helmet), but last night on the news, they said that he died of massive head injuries
Was he wearing a "proper" helmet or a simple beanie

Intersection should be banned
In reality, it's their that the worst can happen !

I would not mind much having a low or even a hign side at almost any speed
But being cut or side swap on an intersection is one of my worst fear

And btw, my sympathy for the family, of course

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Ottawa Citizen pics show a full face helmet, but even a full face doesn't mean that you are invulnerable.

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This is what we get by having driving standards set at "moron" level.

Our licensing standards are ridiculously low. Any fool with a pulse can drive a 2 ton SUV. Net result: A man is killed.

I suggest mandatory driver training and minimum intellect standards. Room temp IQ people need not apply. I've never understood our lowest common denominator approach to licensing......
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I can relate

I had someone take me out on July 5th. I'm currently sitting in a nursing home recovering!

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Our licensing standards are ridiculously low. Any fool with a pulse can drive a 2 ton SUV. Net result: A man is killed.

I suggest mandatory driver training and minimum intellect standards. Room temp IQ people need not apply. I've never understood our lowest common denominator approach to licensing......
More proof we are only the smartest monkey.

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Ottawa Citizen pics show a full face helmet, but even a full face doesn't mean that you are invulnerable.

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Indeed !

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This is always my debate. I slow and cover the brakes when I see someone that could turn left in front of me but always wonder whether that provokes the "I think I can beat him" mentaility that makes them turn in the first place. All I can do is assume they will.

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I was out of town when this happened, didn't hear about it until just now. Then this morning's paper brings news of a similar accident involving the team doctor for the Ottawa Senators. I think without a doubt this has to be the most lethal scenario facing us as riders: cars turning left across our lane. It's certainly when my spidey senses get tingling the most. Ride safe everyone.
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A sad story indeed, and all too common.

I offered to ride my co-workers new Ninja 650r home for him for this same reason.... lo and behold, some moron in a large Ford truck pulled right out in front of me and I had to do a very hard and wide swerve.

My comrade, with only 8 hours of riding under his belt, would have been too close for comfort.

My heart goes out to all the families of down riders.
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