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Some Folks Don't Get It

I was speaking to an old friend last night on the phone. So, happens he rides a 2006 FJR1300 (what I just traded in for the V). He tells me, I made a mistake buying the Versys the way I travel. It just is not a big enough bike or motor for me. It does not have enough room for the long haul. Won't be comfortable or be able to pack much.
Now, this rider has never ridden his bike further than Florida to Georgia. He has a 2006 FJR with only 38k miles on it (I had 80K on the same year and I don't commute to work on it). I understand he is taking a long trip out to California next year (trailering to ride a whopping 700 miles up to Banff).
It amazes me how many experts are out their willing to share their expansive knowledge on motorcycles.
I don't think many riders out there have done their homework on the Versys. My opinion is that this bike, when setup correctly, is in it for the long haul. I plan on doing exactly what I've done all along, and that is ride it long distance. It is not a Goldwing, Venture or FJR, I have had them all.
What the V lacks in size and cc, it makes up for in character IMO.
Whew, got that off my chest.

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+10. Most go for big CC, thinking it has all, but the V beats them all when its long tour.

No whatsoever regrets on my purchase and enjoying every minute of it.

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Totally agree. I traded my Honda ST1300 for my Versys, 3 years and 27k miles ago, best decision I ever made-bike wise.

My wife hated the ST, it had a wobble around 55, even when it wasn't windy. In the wind it was horrific, so bad after one trip down Vancouver Island, she refused to sit on it ever again.

I've done numerous multi-thousand trips on the V, with a sheep skin and my Airhawk, its the most comfortable bike I've owned. The long range, (200miles or so), the minimal heat in traffic on hot days ( I ride a lot in SoCal in the winter), plus the way it handles in the twisties, it can't be beaten.

Two up performance is great, even in the Rockies over the highest passes, there is plenty of power with 2 people and motel luggage.

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Totally agree. I traded my Honda ST1300 for my Versys, 3 years and 27k miles ago, best decision I ever made-bike wise.

My wife hated the ST, it had a wobble around 55, even when it wasn't windy. In the wind it was horrific, so bad after one trip down Vancouver Island, she refused to sit on it ever again.Machog
You are fortunate in more ways than you think. The ST1300 has an inherent stability issue at speed that forced european police departments to end use of that bike after several officers were killed. I'd considered one a few years back until I did a little research.

http://www.ridethatbike.com/ST1300/ST%20wobble.htm

Maybe so, maybe not, but certainly not worth risking perfectly good skin and bone over. Besides they're over-priced (IMHO)

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Plenty of folks don't get the Versys, that's true.

Plenty of other folks don't get Harleys or BMWs or Moto Guzzis.

Plenty of other folks don't get motorcycles in general.

Ride what you like.


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From my perspective I feel the V. is the best bang for the buck and a perfect first bike for new riders. A poor man's BMW if you will. It's 1/3 of the price and will do everything the BMW will do. If money wasn't a factor, I would be on a BMW, or DUC.
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I did a 6k mile trip on a DRZ400SM with stock seat. The Versys is a Gold Wing after that. And, I've owned a Gold Wing. I miss it until I think about pushing it around a parking lot
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VZ, yes I understand you!!

That's a very disturbing thread, at least it wasn't just me.

I tried new tires, different pressure settings, balance, weight etc etc, nothing worked.

I went on a US forum and it was suggested I get rid of the trunk box, didn't help. Do a complete re-torque of bike frame-way too much trouble for me, that's when I decided to sell it.

The excessive heat on my right knee was also an issue, even in 'normal' riding temps it was bloody hot. When I rode the ST from SEA to DEN and back, I had some really unpleasant days. Plus crossing the Great Salt Lake, overtaking trucks was a nightmare, or any time it was windy.

Ok, enough already this is a Versys forum

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got to agree with the majority here
did 8,000 miles in 5 weeks, one up and fully loaded
apart from operator incompetance the bike was fine
never missed a beat, never had a problem, didn't need a sheeepskin buttpad or wahtever...
stock windscreen turned upside down
giviv 346 panniers repalced by Sears Givi knockoffs

the only true limiting factor was me (well if you discount the weather), did some 500+ days, one 100+ day, averaged around 250..275 a day
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I just sold my concours 14 and bought a Versys. Prior to the concours was a V-strom that I regret selling to buy the connie. When I sold the concours I was going to buy a 650 wee strom but figured I would always compare it to my 1000 v-strom so I went with a Versys. So far, I'm impressed with the bike but not happy with farkle availabilaty. Maybe that's a good thing considering I had over 6k in add ons on the strom. I can just buy an extra versys with the money I save
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It's a psychological limitation mankind has - bigger = better. It just has to in many people's minds. I was going to say it's a problem we have mostly in the US, but even on non-US based forums I see the same thing. "I need to move up to something bigger (and implicitly - better)".

Some people get over it, some don't. It's hard to convince people to change their preconceptions. They have to experience it on their own to see that it isn't as black and white as they have grown to believe. It's almost as bad as the oil of choice...


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in addition to what Gustavo mentioned, the other issue here is the fact that both you and your bud had FJRs. your love affair the V after so many miles on an FJR would seem to indicate that he made a poor choice with his bike selection. no one wants to believe such a thing after pouring heart and soul and man-hours into their decision. not everyone will admit to a poor choice on a major investment, better to sink with the ship and declare victory from Davy Jones' locker.

that's part of the reason people here always tell the curious visitors that the V is the perfect bike for them, when sometimes (sometimes!) it may not be the best option.

that's human nature.

In a world full of people, only some want to ride. Isn't that crazy?
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Well, I am not taking anything away from the FJR. I travel heavily loaded most of the time. I carry gear for two people, on the road for 2 to 3 weeks every summer. The FJR motor was tight at 80k, but it needed a new rear shock, front springs, clutch plates were getting worn and steering head bearing needed to be replaced. That's pretty much normal wear and tear for a bike that has been traveled as much. I never had any trouble with the bike over those miles (other than a warrenty recall on the ignition switch). It is a fantastic motorcycle!
The cost factor and my age helped me make the decision to buy the Versys. I'm 58 and want to retire in a few years so I need to stay debt free. I did plenty of research, and in fact joined this forum in 2008 to study what riders were saying about the bike. I like what I have read. I only bought the bike in June.
My point was just that some people are too free with their opinions when they don't know squat.

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I am always free with opinions, and don't know squat. I get a mix of curiosity and bewilderment from my Harley/Goldwing friends. I think most of them think the Versys is ok, if you can't have what they ride. The Versys is a great bike that gets little respect in my neck of the woods. That is ok, I have the only one around here, at least that I have seen. I like to have something nobody else has.

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Some very smart, well educated and highly Versys-tile members on this forum.

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Some very smart, well educated and highly Versys-tile members on this forum.
... if we do say so ourselves.


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I did a 6k mile trip on a DRZ400SM with stock seat. The Versys is a Gold Wing after that. And, I've owned a Gold Wing. I miss it until I think about pushing it around a parking lot
I almost missed this post. 6k on a DZR400? That is certifiable (if you know what I mean)!
Was it an epic journey or just meandering around? Pretty cool in my book.

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I met a guy at Moonshine this year who rode his KLR650 from Key West to San Diego to Prudhoe Bay, Alaska to Goose Bay, Newfoundland and back to Key West in 16 days. I doubt I've traveled that far in a plane in 16 days!


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There you go. Your opinion vs his. Who cares what he thinks. Since you have a Versys you are correct by default anyway.

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The Versys is a great bike that gets little respect in my neck of the woods.
Sorry to hear that, Element. I have had my V for about a month now, and so far, it has received nothing but admiration from other bikers -- including owners of HD, Ducati and BMW, as well as other Japanese makes. Non-bikers have given it lots of compliments as well.

I must admit that the green seems to be a plus.
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